William Williams, born 1885/86 in Pwllheli

[Deirdre784]

Hi
Been out since late morning, so it's now that I'm seeing your reply. The father's name being a common one makes it difficult, but on the plus side we know that he was a farmer.
I'll see if I can trace his family, but won't be till tomorrow. Just about to have my evening meal and have run a mountain race today which took me 1: 45:30 , so I'm a bit knackered being 70+ !
Emyr
 

Hi Emyr, well done on the race, hope you enjoy your meal and recover quickly

I meant to edit my post - but had to rush out - to say that of course his mother could still be the Mary Ann Griffith that I found earlier; might explain why her other children were Griffiths. Trying to find his birth registration might be difficult but would really help so I'll go down that search route for a bit.

Deirdre

[Deirdre784]

There were 28 William Williams births registered in Pwllheli in 1885/6/7

[Deirdre784]

If someone says they were born in Pwllheli, would you expect that to be the town or the wider (registration) area?

Just there is a family in Tydweiliog, Pwllheli in 1891 with a William (ag lab) and William son - RG12 4654 40 4 - and there may be others.

[EmyrBorth]

Hi
Pwllheli Registration District covers very large area

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/pwllheli.html

Emyr

[Deirdre784]

Thanks Emyr, I realised that when looking for Tydweiliog on the map! Guess I'm back to my 28 William Williamses born around the time!

Deirdre

[Ladyhawk]

Don’t know if this 1891c relates to  your Williams family Registration district Pwllheli

Piece: 4653 Folio: 24 Page Number: 4

William Williams age 4 (no pob given)
other siblings Ann 12, Arthur 11 & Margaret 10 dittoed as born Aberdaron
Their father William’s occ Farmer, mother Ann

[Deirdre784]

Don’t know if this 1891c relates to  your Williams family Registration district Pwllheli

Piece: 4653 Folio: 24 Page Number: 4

William Williams age 4 (no pob given)
other siblings Ann 12, Arthur 11 & Margaret 10 dittoed as born Aberdaron
Their father William’s occ Farmer, mother Ann

Thanks Ladyhawk, I'll try and follow that through to 1901 and 1911.

[Ladyhawk]

You might have already found this but just in case........ this looks to be family on 1901c

1901  RG13; Piece: 5266; Folio: 28; Page: 6

William Williams 58 occ. Farmer, Anne 46
Annie Jones Owen dau 22, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VV-FQQ
Maggie dau 20(her surname dittoed as Owen),
WILLIE WILLIAMS son 14,
Evan Jones serv. 21
All dittoed as born Aberdaron except Evan born Rhiw

[Deirdre784]

Hi Ladyhawk, no I hadn't so thanks

Found a few William Williams, farmer, Aberdaron but not with wife Ann, so tried looking for the same house/farm name from 1891 but couldn't find that either

Looks like the older children are from a first marriage as they are Owens in 1891 and Owen in 1901.