mcrobbie

[raggyroo]

hi im looking for the parents of alexander mcrobbie born abt 1851 and died in 1931 at new deer.
his parents names are alexander mcrobbie and Elizabeth Aitken but cant find any thing on them
thanks raggyroo

[MonicaL]

Hi raggyroo

What else do you have on Alexander? Marriage, censuses to confirm birth place etc?

Who did he marry? What details were given on his parents?

Monica 

[raggyroo]

hi im not sure of his birth place as I cant find it and I cant find the family in cen records but he was married to a mary j pratt in 1876 at tyrie Aberdeenshire his 2nd marriage was to annie Sutherland in 1890 at new deer Aberdeenshire as for his parents all I have for them is their names form the certs alexander mcrobbie gamekeeper and Elizabeth mcrobbie ms aitken

[jonn]

Hello Raggyroo,

Here is the 1881 census for your Alexander Mc Robbie,

Address Croft at Loanburn, Tyrie, Aberdeen.

John (Sr.) Pratt, Head, Farmer, of 12 Ac. Arable, W. age 90 years, M. born Fyvie, Aberdeen,
Betsy Pratt, Daur, Farmers Daur, U. age 63 years, F. born Crimond, Aberdeen,
Alexander McRobbie, Boarder,  Ag Lab, W. age 31 years, M. born Ireland.

This, John (Sr) Pratt, is actually the grandfather of Mary J. Pratt, who married Alexander McRobbie, Mary Jane Pratt/McRobbie, died 1877. aged 27 years, Tyrie, Aberdeen, thats why Alexander McRobbie, is down as a Widower, on this 1881 census.

Because Alexander McRobbie, states on this census he is born in Ireland, thats why you cannot find any information on him.

Regards,
Jonn.

[rosie17]

Here he is 1891 census address Old Schoolhouse Pitsligo
Alexander McRobbie b 1851 Aberdour Aberdeenshire age 40 crofter
Annie b 1857 New Pitsligo
JOHN McCrobbie b 1878 Tyrie age 13

And with his grandfather John Pratt in the 1881 census as posted

[rosie17]

1901 census Alexander McRobbie b 1851 New Aberdour age 50 occupation crofter
Annie McRobbie age 44
Bessie b 1894 Pitsligo age 7
Edith b 1896 Pitsligo age 5
Address School Croft Pitsligo

[jonn]

Hello Raggyroo,

Just to clarify its the correct Alexander,

1881 census next door still called LoanBurn, we have Mary J. Pratt's, father and children.

John Pratt, Head, Farmer, 730 Ac. W. age 58 years, M. born Crimond, Aberdeen.
Alex Pratt son U. Age 26. M. born Tyrie,
Isabella Pratt, Daur, U. age 25 years, F. born Tyrie,
David Pratt, Son, U. age 17 years, M. born Tyrie,
Charles Pratt, Son, U. age 15 years, M. born Tyrie,
Margaret Ann, Pratt, daur, age 13 years, F. born Tyrie,
Irvine Gess Pratt, Daur, Age 12 years, F. born Tyrie,
John McRobbie, Grandson, age 3 years, M. born Tyrie.

Mary Jane Pratt, born 27/Feb/1850. Tyrie, Aberdeen, to parents John Pratt, and Jean Milne.

Regards,
Jonn.

[rosie17]

Yes need to wait till Raggyro confirms as there is also a Alex McRobbie b Ireland 1851 age 20 in the 1871 census at Nether Bayndee farm Tyrie  farm lab.

[Annette7]

I THINK I might have found the right family but alas can't prove it.

According to census Alexander's birthplace is given as Ireland or Aberdour!

From what I've found he was brought up in Aberdour but was actually born in Ireland - however, his paternal grandparents are Scottish!

In 1861 Aberdour is with:
 Rebecka McRobie 62           born Cruden, Aberdeenshire
 Thomas McRobie son  25     Ploughman    born Aberdour
 Helen Johnson (his wife)  21                         ditto
 Barbra McRobie  12  g/dau. 12                born Banffshire
 Jane McRobie 14      g/dau. 14                 born Ireland
Alexander McRobie 12  g/son                    born Ireland
Rebecka McRobie  infant  gdau.                 born Aberdour

1851 - Aberdour

Alexander Mc Robie   65                born Methlick, Aberdeenshire
Rebaka  Mc Robie 54
William Mc Robie  19
Thomas McRobie  15
Charles McRobie  13
sons all born Aberdour

In 1841 in Aberdour (transcribed as Aberlour on Ancestry):
Alexr. Mcrobie   55  with Rebecca and 7 children, older child being a James 20!

Discovered that Alexander McRobbie married a Rebecca Sim 8/12/1825 Aberdour, so the son James must have been born to a previous wife.

I looked at original record for the 2nd marriage but unfortunately status was not given in the records then so can't definitely say he was a widower. 

However - Alexander MacRobie married Ann Ewen 14/6/1808 Methlick, Aberdeenshire (his own birthplace) and there is a 6 year gap before I can find any children on online records:

Mary b.18/1/1814 Aberdour
George b.18/6/1816   "
James b.30/4/1819    "  (the one on census in 1841)
Edward b.12/12/1821 "

I'm sure that Alexander and Ann would have had children born 1808 to 1813 and my gut feeling is that this would have included a son Alexander who could well be the one who married an Elizabeth Aitken?? with a son born in Ireland circa 1849 (at his first marriage in 1876 he states he was 27 i.e. b.1849 which ties in with earlier census I found BUT his mother is given as Elizabeth ATKINS not Aitken).    I wonder if the Jane on the 1861 census born Ireland ca.1847 was Alexander's sister - can only assume they were both in Ireland in 1851.

So, with 2 births and probably the marriage taking place in Ireland cannot prove a word although I feel sure this is the right scenario.

Annette