John Owen(s), born around 1827 in Haverfordwest

[Deirdre784]

I think Joseph 1745 is my 4th great grandfather ... So we have a 'removed' !

Son James 1788 my 3rd, son John 1826 my 2nd, daughter Jane 1853 my great grandmother.

[asterix57]

OK. Generations not that far out (e.g. my 2xggm born 1838), but for the large gap between your James and John.

[Deirdre784]

If it's right, based on burial aged 41 in 1829, James was about 37 when he married.

[asterix57]

In case it is of interest, I ordered the death certificate of Joseph Owens of Prendergast. It confirms that he was 93 when he died, and also that he was a shoemaker, which ties him in to my later Owen ancestors.

[Deirdre784]

Hi Charles, that's great, thanks.

Would you be prepared to let me know the date and cause of death (i'll get the cert myself when i get back to that branch, currently transferring my tree to Family Historian and checking details as i go).

Thanks, Deirdre

[asterix57]

Of course, Deirdre: he died Oct 11 (buried 15th). Cause of death "old age"! If you give me your e-mail address I can send you a scanned copy.

By the way, just looking through the earlier messages here, I was reminded that your John - although not himself a shoe maker - was the son of James, shoe maker. So to my mind it seems logical that James would himself have come from a family of shoe makers - which would seem to support the view that James came from the family in Prendergast, wouldn't it?

[Deirdre784]

Thanks, that's great. I'll pm you now. Love the cause! I have a 'natural decay' for my John's MIL, which sounds worse, though probably (hopefully) means something similar.

Yes, I think I'm quite happy with the family, and had added them to my tree, though I'm aware that, as with all pre-census and pre-registration records, it's difficult to be 100%. I don't seem to find many wills or any other docs to confirm or otherwise, though I'm sure that's the case for many people.

Deirdre