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When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 03:10 BST (UK) »
John Middleton's wife Alice Hilda Middleton nee Durrant (my 2xgreatUncle's daughter) was murdered my Cecil Maltby in 1922 (official record has 1923 when her body was found). Finding a great deal of information on this I wanted to fellow John's progress after her murder. He died in 1943 and buried Southend-on-sea (Sutton Road). He had a career in the Merchant Navy and married a Gertrude Kathe. I can't find when/where they married not helped by not knowing Gertrude's maiden name. Any possible matches end as they all have my John Middleton with a middle named which this John did not have.
Any fellow ups would be appreciated.

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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 July 15 08:18 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage of a John MIDDLETON no middle name to a Gertrude CUSWORTH in Bakewell June Qtr 1929
7b 1864
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 July 15 10:17 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this is Gertrude's death,same area as John's.

Gertrude Kate Middleton

DOB 28 Nov 1898  died Jun 1975
Age     76  District:    Southend on Sea,Essex
Volume     9  Page    2644
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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 July 15 10:49 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage of a John MIDDLETON no middle name to a Gertrude CUSWORTH in Bakewell June Qtr 1929
7b 1864

  Actually  that  John appears  to  marry  a  Beatrice  Wilson
 
Marriages Jun 1929   

Cusworth  Gertrude  Middleton  Bakewell  7b 1864   
Middleton  John  Wilson  Bakewell  7b 1864   
Middleton  Stanley  Cusworth  Bakewell  7b 1864
Wilson  Beatrice  Middleton  Bakewell  7b 1864   


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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 July 15 12:09 BST (UK) »
Just in case anyone else can spot something, I can't -  I've been trying to find John on ships, and possibly the 2nd wife on the same ship along with him.   It's possible - one newspaper report mentioned John had last seen Alice Hilda in July 1922 when she left the ship (that he was on as Chief Officer, the SS Maresfield) at Cornwall and returned to London.

Crew list 1920, show John MIDDLETON, age 48, 1st Officer of the "SS Maresfield" , so born abt 1872.

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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 July 15 12:38 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this is Gertrude's death,same area as John's.

Gertrude Kate Middleton

DOB 28 Nov 1898  died Jun 1975
Age     76  District:    Southend on Sea,Essex
Volume     9  Page    2644

If the above is the correct death, the death certificate should give Gertrude's maiden name, and her place of birth (if known to the informant). That might help you find the marriage.

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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 July 15 13:18 BST (UK) »
I thought Gertrude's middle name might be a typo, but as it is Kathe in the entry for John Middleton's will in the Probate Calendar, and also in the entry for the administration of her own estate in 1975 (the death that Carol found matches the probate entry), it must be correct.  A German name?

There is no marriage in the British overseas marriages index of a John Middleton and Gertrude. 
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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 July 15 13:21 BST (UK) »
Her middle name is also spelt Kathe when she is named as widow in his CWGC record.  I agree she may have been from a German speaking country.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: When did widower John Middleton remarry after wife's murder.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 July 15 03:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the replies. First I too was confused with that marriage needing to take a second look (blast not them:too easy) and yes that is Gertrude's death in 1975. That new probate website is a god's send to gather more information and also to confirm many things specially from sitting way down here in NZ.
Had a play with the German... possibility within UK census using her birth date and then marriages but nothing found. No sign of John and Gertrude till the known deaths oh well.
If she was from Europe and/or they married out of the UK, there is probable little chance of solving this one. However I have enjoyed (though sad) story of cousin Alice Hilda from Horsham.  :)

Durrant, Haffenden, Cornwall, Parker - Sussex.
Street, Walden, Emery, Clayton - London/Middlesex
Roberts, Atwood, Dowsett, Clemett, Renner, Benge, M(a)cDonald, Elliott