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Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 10:59 BST (UK) »
Searching for Irish ancestors who emigrated from Ireland and settled in Liverpool. All the passenger lists seem to focus on emigration to America. Dates 1846-1855
Banks - Wick, Caithness
Dunbar - Co Antrim-Birkenhead-Liverpool
Kemp - Woodnesborough,Kent-Liverpool
Long - Ireland-Liverpool
Clarke - Ireland-Liverpool
Weldon - Dublin-Birkenhead
Thomas - LLandysilio,Anglesey-Liverpool
Roberts -Denbighshire-Liverpool
Spain-Woodnesborough, Kent
Seed - Ballyculter, Co. Down
Graham-Ayrshire-Ballyculter-Liverpool

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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 July 15 11:22 BST (UK) »
Ireland was part of the U.K. so no records were kept of people travelling between Ireland and England, Scotland and Wales.
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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 July 15 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks, but I have heard that many Irish people who intended to emigrate to America never got that far and many  settled in Liverpool, London, Manchester etc....? which is probably what happened to all of my Irish ancestors.
Banks - Wick, Caithness
Dunbar - Co Antrim-Birkenhead-Liverpool
Kemp - Woodnesborough,Kent-Liverpool
Long - Ireland-Liverpool
Clarke - Ireland-Liverpool
Weldon - Dublin-Birkenhead
Thomas - LLandysilio,Anglesey-Liverpool
Roberts -Denbighshire-Liverpool
Spain-Woodnesborough, Kent
Seed - Ballyculter, Co. Down
Graham-Ayrshire-Ballyculter-Liverpool

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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 July 15 19:41 BST (UK) »
Some perhaps but most just left Ireland and went to places across the water where they could join friends and find work.
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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 July 15 17:22 BST (UK) »
Irish people have been coming to Liverpool for hundreds of years. Some chose to look for work in England, or decided to get a Liverpool ship to go abroad and some people in times of difficulty had no choice and had to leave Ireland to go anywhere that might give them a better life. In the 19th and early 20th century all Irish people were British subjects so no passenger records were needed for such "internal" travel. During the time the south of Ireland was the Irish Free State and later a Republic (pre European union etc) Irish people retained a special status so that they were not considered as foreigners in the UK. The British government wanted the southern Irish to retain the freedom they previously had as British Subjects to come over to work in Britain.


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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 July 15 17:48 BST (UK) »
I've heard travelling from Ireland to England or Scotland described as being like getting on the bus.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 July 15 19:04 BST (UK) »
It's the old migrant versus immigrant issue this one. Irish immigrant versus Irish migrant. The relationship between Britain and Ireland and the status of Irish people in Britain. Some people will argue that Irish people in Britain were always immigrants on the grounds of having a separate identity. I use the term migrants because it is historically correct, certainly still correct for the Northern Irish of today and can still be said to be true to a certain extent for people from the Republic of Ireland on the following grounds:-

1. Separate to nationality law, the 1949 Act also provided that "citizens of the Republic of Ireland" (the British nomenclature adopted under the Act) would continue to be treated on a par with those from Commonwealth countries and would not be treated as aliens. 

2. Irish citizens are automatically deemed to be "settled" in the United Kingdom. This is a more favourable status than that given to citizens of other EU and EEA member states. This special status comes from section 1(3) of the Immigration Act 1971, the legislative basis for the Common Travel Area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law_and_the_Republic_of_Ireland


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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 July 15 19:10 BST (UK) »
It is called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland for a reason.
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Re: Ireland to Liverpool passenger lists
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 July 15 19:18 BST (UK) »
For most of our Irish migrant ancestors this was their country:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Ireland


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