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James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« on: Sunday 12 July 15 12:34 BST (UK) »
This is a real mystery,I have found James Mulholland's Royal Navy records which stated he was born in Hull in Feb,1895. found him on the 1911 census as a Bargeman aged 16yrs. have his marriage cert, with father's name being also James Mulholland a Hotel Keeper. he married in 1921 in Farnham Surrey. ro Alice Norris. now I have searched every available place for a birth entry for this guy and he does not seem to be registered anywhere,ancestry doe not have it neither does find my past or freebmd. I have run out of places to search, anyone got any ideas of where I can search next for this birth entry please.
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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 July 15 13:13 BST (UK) »
It could be that "James" is actually John:

John Daniel Mulholland Sep Q 1892 Sculcoates

Marriage:
James Mulholland to either Susan Ellen Kirkby or Mary Young @ Hull Dec Q 1890

1901 cen there is a James Mulholland, head, Widr, 41, Plasterer, brn Glasgow, Scotland with dau Mary, 18, s, no occ brn Glasgow, Scotland at 12 Wheeler St, Sculcoates
Class: RG13; Piece: 4476; Folio: 130; Page: 20

You need to track this family to find out if he fits in and if he is the same one as marrying above.

Familysearch: 1901 cen there is a John D Mulholland, nephew, birth 1893 Hull, aged 8 yrs, Dairycoates St Mary & St Peter, Hessle - I have checked the actual image and it has the following:
37 Havelock St, Edith Ann Moore, wife, married, 23, no occp (usually in Hull this refers to her being a wife of a Mariner etc), born Hull with dau Norah Moore, 2, born Hull and John D Mulholland, nephew, 8, born Hull - Class: RG13; Piece: 4479; Folio: 62; Page: 23

So could these above be your James and his father James too ??? maybe his mother died at birth or soon after and Edith Ann Moore brought him up ???

Familysearch there is this entry: 1901 cen there is also James Mulholland aged 6 years, c1895 Hull, St Phillips, East Sculcoates - I have checked the actual image and it is surname Hollandes.

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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 July 15 14:46 BST (UK) »
Thank you Wendy for your information, I had wondered about that James Mulholland marriage in 1890, could that have been James 1895 father. the James who I am trying to trace a birth record for died when he was only 39yrs.old in Farnham,Surrey. he was a great grandfather of a friend of mine, we are both baffled that we cannot find an actual birth entry so that we could send for his birth certificate, that would then give us his mothers name.will check out this 1901 widower James Mulholland aged 41yrs.

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 July 15 14:53 BST (UK) »
I was going to suggest that he was born with a different surname, and his parents married soon after.

Have you managed to find any more of his military service - (I saw the ships on ancestry) ?

The death says he was aged 39, so should be born 1894/1895, so that 8th February 1895 as stated in war records..


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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 July 15 14:54 BST (UK) »

This is a real mystery,I have found James Mulholland's Royal Navy records which stated he was born in Hull in Feb,1895.

found him on the 1911 census as a Bargeman aged 16yrs.

I can't see a match either on FreeBMD for a James Mulholland in the Mar qtr. 1895

Is it possible his pob may be incorrect – perhaps he was born in Scotland

James MULHOLLAND age 16 has a middle name ‘Edgar’ 1911 - Is this the correct James?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7TQ-ZCX

Might be a coincidence a James Edgar Mulholland born 1869 pob Dumfries Scotland  on 1911 living Yorkshire RD Hull https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T4-P3M

There’s this 1906 marriage entry for a James Edgar Mulholland probably married Elizabeth Margaret Quinlan?  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DCL-MD8

Elizabeth Mullholland & daughter Ivy are on their own 1901 RG13; Piece: 4477; Folio: 41; Page: 1

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 July 15 15:01 BST (UK) »
John Daniel Mulholland served in Royal Naval Reserve

John Daniel Mulholland  born  17 July 1892  Hull
Date:   1908-1955    Service number:   DA 91

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 July 15 15:27 BST (UK) »
he married in 1921 in Farnham Surrey.

Were the witnesses to their marriage related to either family?



Marriage:
James Mulholland to either Susan Ellen Kirkby or Mary Young @ Hull Dec Q 1890


For info. from Yorkshire BMD

1890 Hull Register Offices or Registrar Attended
MULHOLLAND   James
YOUNG   Mary

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 July 15 15:57 BST (UK) »
There are 2 James Mulhollands born in Scotland in 1895, according to scotlandspeople.

In 1901 census I can see one of them, possibly with a relative Annie Mulholland from Aberdeen age 49.  They are living in a lodging house and James is a Quay porter,born Glasgow and living in Glasgow.

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Re: James Mulholland Born 1895 Hull.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 July 15 16:29 BST (UK) »
John Daniel Mulholland served in Royal Naval Reserve

John Daniel Mulholland  born  17 July 1892  Hull
Date:   1908-1955    Service number:   DA 91

John Daniel Mulholland Deck Hand
Birth Date:   17 Jul 1892 Hull, Yorkshire
Branch of Service:   Royal Naval Reserve
Death Date:   26 Aug 1916
Ship or Unit:   HM Trawler Jasper
Body Not Recovered For Burial
Relatives Notified and Address:Grandmother: Margaret Pickering 5, Libys Terrace, Parrot St Hull

marriage 1895 Sculcoates
Edith Pickering name on same page George Arthur Moore

This is the closest match I could find for a James MULHOLLAND born c1895 Hull BUT father is named Saml  ???

1901c RG13; Piece: 4489; Folio: 16; Page: 24
MALLHOLLAND (Mullholland)
James age 6 Hull son of Saml & Rosanna, sibling Daniel born c1883 Hull

I've tried looking between dates 1890 - 1896 for a birth entry on Yorkshire BMD
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

choose region Hull and soundex for surname Mulholland but nothing for
James Mulholland  or James E(dgar) Mulholland  ???
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