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Hi with greetings from Victoria, Australia,

Seeking info re family of Anne Armstrong, believed born 1841 at Ninebanks, Northumberland, who married Matthew Clementson, son of William Clementson B1794 and Mary Martin B1797 Ninebanks.

Victorian Death record for Anne aged 85 at Piggoreet Victoria, indicates her father was a John Harrison and her mother was Mary Armstrong, which is a bit of a mystery in its own rite?

The emigration record of Matthew Clementson and Anne Armstrong indicates Anne came to Victoria with -

Matthew Clementson (Lab) Age 28 - son of William Clementson B1794 and Mary Martin B1797 Ninebanks
Ann Clementson nee Armstrong (wife) Age 21
Elizabeth Clementson (dtr) Age 2
Emma Clementson (dtr) Age 1

Michael Clementson Age 25 - cousin of Matthew, son of William Clementson B1808 of Garrigill and Elizabeth Fawcett B1811 of Alston

William Clementson Age 28 (Lab) - unconfirmed relation

Joseph Clementson Age 23 (Lab) brother of Matthew, B1840, son of William Clementson B1794 and Mary Martin B1797 Ninebanks
Joseph married Margaret Morris in 1874 in Victoria.

William Alfred Clementson Age 21 (Lab) - cousin, born 1842 Alston, son of William Clementson B1808 of Garrigill and Elizabeth Fawcett B1811 of Alston.

William Armstrong Age 23 (Lab) - possible brother or cousin of Ann Armstrong - unconfirmed.

James Armstrong Age 35 (Lab) - possible brother or cousin of Ann Armstrong - unconfirmed.

Any definite info or records regarding any of Anne Armstrong's relations mentioned above would be greatly appreciated, especially any relevant records of the family at Piggoreet / Devils Kitchen in Victoria.

Many thanks for your time
Mixo Sydenham
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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 July 15 15:02 BST (UK) »
1861 Census Ann is born c 1842 Allendale;
Matthew Clemetson, 26
Ann Clemetson, 19
Elizabeth Clemetson, 10/12

I think you need the 1860 Marriage Cert personally.

Ann may have been born before her Parents Marriage and that might explain her Parents names on the Death Cert.
Or they never married.

Only Ann I can find born Allendale in 1851 Census

1851 Census
Owl Gait Gate ?,
Allendale and West Allen High, Northumberland
HO107/2105/205/14
Edward Armstrong, 31, Head, Unm, Lead Ore Miner/Farmer of 15 Acres
Mary Armstrong, 27, Sister, Unm
James Armstrong, 24, Brother, Unm, Miner
John Armstrong, 21, Brother, Unm, Miner
Elizabeth Armstrong, 19, Sister, Unm
Sarah Armstrong, 13, Sister, Scholar
William Armstrong, 11, Brother, Scholar
ANN Armstrong,   9, NEICE, Scholar*****
All born Allendale

Could MARY age 27 be Anns Mother ?

OK, just found 1861 for Edward.
Some sort of connection I think..


1861 Census
Owl Gait Gate?,
Allendale, Northumberland
RG9/3862/76/1
Edward Armstrong, 41, Head, Unm, Lead Ore Miner/Farmer of 17 Acres
James Armstrong, 34, Brother, Unm, Lead Ore Miner
Joseph Armstrong, 27, Brother, Unm, Scholar
Sarah Armstrong, 23, Sister
William Armstrong, 21, Brother, Unm, Lead Ore Miner
Mary HARRISON, 18, NEICE, Unm, Housemaid****

Ninebanks is Ecclesiastical parish of Allendale


 
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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 July 15 15:09 BST (UK) »
Bit of a tangled web and I may totally be off track here!

1851 Census we have;
John Harrison, 32, Head, Mar, Grocer
Jane Harrison, 35, Wife, Mar
MARY Harrison, 8, Daug
Jane Harrison, 7, Daug
John Harrison, 1, Son
Joseph Armstrong, 16, Brother in Law
HO107/2415/214/2


Marriage Reg Dec 1839 Hexham, Jane ARMSTRONG/John HARRISON on same page
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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 July 15 15:20 BST (UK) »
May as well post the 1841;

1841 Census
Owl Gate,
HO107/837/34/Allendale
Joseph Armstrong, 50, Lead Ore Miner
Jane Armstrong, 25
Edward Armstrong, 20, Lead Ore Miner
James Armstrong, 14
John Armstrong, 12
Elizabeth Armstrong, 9
Joseph Armstrong, 7
Sarah Armstrong, 4
William Armstrong, 2

Mary is not at Home.
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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 00:06 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Bishop's Transcripts on family search Anne does not appear to have been baptised in
Allendale parish church between 1841  and 1843.  The records for 1839 and 1840 are missing.

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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 06:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish and C-Side,

Really appreciate your time and expertise, as I only have limited access to certain UK records from here in Australia. From your great input, it seems Anne Armstrong both lived, and emigrated to Victoria with some of her cousins.

Cheers with many thanks
Mixo Sydenham
Joseph Richardson & Ann Metcalf from Alston c1720s, Fenwick Allison & Isabella Slack from Garrigill c1770s,
William Calvert & Eleanor Allison from Allendale c1790s,
John and Mary Liddell from Ninebanks c1780s,
William Coulson and Mary Scott from Allendale c1760s,
James Vipond and Mary Ann Bell from Alston c1800s,
John Clementson and Mary Whitfield from Garrigill c1720s,
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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 November 17 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm new to all this and I'm not sure if you'd be interested.
I have been compiling a few aerial drone videos about the abandoned places in Weardale. I recently visited some abandoned cottages at Wolf Cleugh near Rookhope in Weardale, Co Durham and after a bit of research I found it was once the home of the Clementson family. There's a photo at the start of the video taken around 1850 I think. I can post the youtube link - would that be of any use to you?

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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 November 17 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for your time and info re the original Clemenston house.
Due to personal circumstances here, it would great if you could post a print screen .jpg picture of just the house, if possible please,
Warm regards for now, and good luck with your drone ventures.
Mixo
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Joseph Richardson & Ann Metcalf from Alston c1720s, Fenwick Allison & Isabella Slack from Garrigill c1770s,
William Calvert & Eleanor Allison from Allendale c1790s,
John and Mary Liddell from Ninebanks c1780s,
William Coulson and Mary Scott from Allendale c1760s,
James Vipond and Mary Ann Bell from Alston c1800s,
John Clementson and Mary Whitfield from Garrigill c1720s,
and more at
http://www.richardson.org.au/

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Re: Anne Armstrong - born 1841 Ninebanks - married Matthew Clementson 02 Sep 1860
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 November 17 22:24 GMT (UK) »
The quality isn't great as the pictures are screenshots from the video.
I'll have to make a few posts as the image size is too big.