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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 30 July 15 05:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Peggy,

Whilst there may be a link, I do not believe my Anne Gardner is a sibling of your George. Anne's family seem to be concentrated  in the Ballyeaston area which is maybe 8 miles from Carrickfergus. I also don't see a George Gardner mentioned in the IGI Ballyeaston records.

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Ireland:
County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
USA:
Washington State: Moore, Hoyt, Sinclair, Johnson, Palmateer, Larrabee.
California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 30 July 15 06:23 BST (UK) »
Hello Capt Jock,

Thank you for the information regarding the book, "Six Mile Water". I have replied to your PM.

There are possibly extended family attached to the 1st Larne Presbyterian. I do know that Anne Gardner McAllister's daughter, Mary, married in Inver in 1855 but not at which church. Also David Elliott, Anne's second husband, has a headstone in St Cedma's, Larne.   

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KiwiRose
Ireland:
County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
USA:
Washington State: Moore, Hoyt, Sinclair, Johnson, Palmateer, Larrabee.
California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 24 December 15 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I have researched some of the surnames you mentioned along with Agnew connections.   There is a PRONI will :  The Will of David Elliott late of Headwood Kilwaughter County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 21 August 1877    In it Anne is mentioned as his wife.    I thought this might help you sort the family.    I have done a lot of research of Ballyeaston families and it was not unusual to find some married in the Headwood/Ballynure area.

If you know of any relationships with the Agnews I would like to hear about it.  My Agnews appear to be connected to Gardners and McAllisters.

Barb

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 December 15 15:52 GMT (UK) »
The 1813 BAllyeaston 1st Presbyterian Church Census contains several families by the name of Gardner.

Barb


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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 December 15 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Merry Christmas Barb,

I have read the will of Anne Gardner's 2nd husband, David Elliott. From research I have done following up the information contained in David's will, their daughter Eliza Anne Elliott married on 13 Nov, 1866 to a David Agnew who died in 1867. Eliza and David Agnew had at least two children. A son, David Agnew and daughter Elizabeth (Betty).  Betty married a James Clements.

I will check up in a day's time to see what other information I have on the Agnew connection as it is Christmas Day here and family are due.

Regards
KiwiRose.
Ireland:
County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
USA:
Washington State: Moore, Hoyt, Sinclair, Johnson, Palmateer, Larrabee.
California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 December 15 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Barb,

Something does not add up with the death of Eliza's husband, David Agnew's death date and the daughter Elizabeth (Betty) Agnew who married a Clements.  Please ignore that information until I sort it out when I am not in a rush!

Regard
KiwiRose.
Ireland:
County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
USA:
Washington State: Moore, Hoyt, Sinclair, Johnson, Palmateer, Larrabee.
California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 December 15 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello Barb,
I have got the muddled Agnew information sorted out now. See replies 13 and 14.

Eliza Ann/e Elliott married a David Agnew (his father was James) on 13 Nov 1866. David Agnew died aged 26 years, on 11 Feb 1867 so the marriage was tragically short. Their son, David Agnew, was born 14 July, 1867. I don’t know anything further about the son, David.
I think the widow, Eliza Ann, may have married a Robert Gordon around 1871.

There is a further twig in the Gardner/McAllister/ Elliott family with an Agnew connection. The Elizabeth (Betty) Agnew, muddled up in the previous replies 13 & 14, is, I believe, the mother of Thomas John Clements b 1858 who became the husband of a granddaughter of Ann Gardner/McAllister/ Elliott named Sarah Moore, born c 1863. I hope you can follow that! Thomas John and Sarah Clements farmed in Headwood, Kilwaughter.

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KiwiRose.
Ireland:
County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
USA:
Washington State: Moore, Hoyt, Sinclair, Johnson, Palmateer, Larrabee.
California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 December 15 12:41 GMT (UK) »
I think the widow, Eliza Ann, may have married a Robert Gordon around 1871.
Robert Gordon son of Thomas, married 27 Mar.1871 Belfast district to Eliza Elliott, daughter of David

Children-
Thomas (23 Dec.1871) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5K4-TDS
Annie (11 Apr.1874 Belfast district) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBP-CNG
Robert (10 Oct.1876 Belfast district) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGFH-5PV
   note: father's residence (not birthplace) is Cloughfern
Robert (26 Aug.1878) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR4B-D4Z

I think you need to check the actual marriage on GRONI to see if Eliza's listed as a widow as her surname is showing as Elliott not Agnew
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 August 19 09:58 BST (UK) »
The Elizabeth (Betty) Agnew, muddled up in the previous replies 13 & 14, is, I believe, the mother of Thomas John Clements b 1858
Can anyone help with this timeline please?
Thomas John Clements born c1858 and his Grandfather David Agnew was born c1840?