Benjamin WILES

[Thunder Monkey]

There is another WILES Couple were Baptising St George, Great Bromley in the same time-frame;

JOHN, 12 April 1741
ELIZ, 30 Oct 1743
SARAH, 12 April 1747
ELIZABETH, 8 April 1750
Parents ROBT/SARAH or Robert/Sarah (mostly as Robt)

Robert WILES of Great Bromley married Sarah BARKER, 21 Mar 1740/41, Holy Trinity, Colchester, Essex

A ROBERT Wiles was Buried Great Bromley, 17 Jan 1771

Trish

Thank you Trish.  The marriage of Sarah Barker is interesting!  As stated in an earlier post, a Sarah Barker married my Ben but it lists her as single.  They married in 1755.  However, your Sarah Barker married early and Robt died 1771... possibly divorced or a completely different Sarah Barker 

[helvissa]

Hello Thunder Monkey,

We must be related because Benjamin Wiles is my 7 x gt-grandfather (I'm descended from his daughter Ruth, who married George Jaggard). (and I transcribed the Gt Bromley registers for FreeREG because of them!).

I think what will help is finding the marriage of Benjamin and Ruth but I just haven't come across it yet. What might give us a clue is the marriage at St. Mary's-at-the-Walls in Colchester on 15 November 1728 (it comes up in Boyd's), between Benjamin Wiles and Elizabeth Moore. Alas, it doesn't tell us where they were from. Blast.

There's another Benjamin Wiles marriage in Ipswich in 1735, to Isabell Allet, and one in Westminster (this is a vague LDS one by the looks of it...) in 1727 to Rebecca Holliock.

The Hearth Tax 1670 throws up Robert Wiles in Gt Bromley and William Wiles in Frating. It's possible our Benj had family from Gt Bromley but he'd been born elsewhere and for whatever reason moved to Gt Bromley because of the family connection. Perhaps....

[Thunder Monkey]

Hi Helvissa,

Thank you for your reply and apologies for the delay in replying, I had a short-notice deployment.

Benjamin Wiles is indeed my 7th Gt-GF too... and I as well am descended from Ruth.

Ruth Wiles >John Jaggard > Maria Jaggard > Keziah Warner > Annie Jacobs > Harry Butcher >>> onwards through the Butchers to me

I'm glad it's not only me that is stuck on this line, I thought I was doing so well until I hit that 'brickwall' a few years ago.

Butch

[helvissa]

I'm:

Benjamin Wiles and Ruth *mystery woman*
> George Jaggard & Ruth Wiles
> John Field & Mary Jaggard (Great Bromley/Colchester - John was born in Mendlesham in Suffolk)
> James Field & Sarah Ann Ward (Brightlingsea)
> Henry James Field & Jane Elizabeth Nicholls (Brightlingsea)
> Henry William Field & Sarah Eliza Savage (Brightlingsea)
> my gt-grandmother

Benjamin and Ruth are one of the people in my tree that I keep checking on periodically, hoping that their marriage has gone online *somewhere*!

[Thunder Monkey]

  I'm the same, the Wiles line is one of about 6 that I regularly check as it was going so well up until Ben and Ruth.

Boyd's, LDS and Hearth Tax records certainly detail a few Wiles'... I guess the wait and the search continues.

Still loving your website

[helvissa]

Great!

PS: I should possibly point out that the lady in my userpic is my gt-grandmother, so Benjamin and Ruth are her 3 x gt-grandparents.

[jbml]

I don't kno whow idespread a name Wiles was ... but I've got Wiles ancestors from the Huntingdonshire / Northamptonshire / Bedfordshire border area.

I hit a bit of a brickwall with them, but I THINK I've broken it down ... or at least, I've got a working hypothesis that William EYLES, born in Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire, was orphaned at the age of 5, went to London (possibly as an apprentice?), was married at St Martin in the Fields as William WILES, and then returned to his home area. I certainly find him an dhis wife in the early censuses in Huntingdonshire, one born in Sharnbrook, the other born in London (although, unhelpfully, between successive centuries the entries switch as to which one was born where ... probably a transcription error, but irritating none the less!).

Also, interestingly, I think that my Eyles / Wiles line were nonconformists ... and your line appears to have a Keziah in it which hints at nonconformity, too.

Probbaly unconnected Wiles lines ... but I am pretty confident that the name has been corrupted from Eyles (or sometimes Eyels) to Wiles (probably during the childhood of the younf orphan) and it may be that you will find something similar has happened in your line. Have you tried searching for Eyles / Eyels?

[findem]

Hope you don't mind me mentioning this but I think the surname Wiles needs to be treated with a smidgen of caution, I have seen the surname Willis spelled that way in Essex PRs when researching my Willis line.

Regards and good luck with your research.

[amondg]

St George, Great Bromley Parish Records
27 December 1771, Benjamin Wiles was buried, no age given 

5 March 1768, Sarah wife of Benjamin Wiles was buried