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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 21 July 15 22:47 BST (UK) »
from earlier in 1906 (August)

LICENSING. On the application of Mr F. S. Reed, who applied on behalf of the Official Receiver, the license of the Picton Castle Inn, Neyland, previously held by Mrs Susan Evans, was transferred to Thomas Hamilton, of Glasgow.


By Feb 1907 the inn was said to have been closed since the previous October

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 00:03 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Don't know if you've come across this info earlier but I'll post and risk duplication .
There are 2 Crawford deaths listed on FreeBMD which look interesting.
Both are recorded in the December quarter of 1862 in the district of Pembroke  -
Janet Crawford                    vol.11a page 403
Thomas Hamilton Crawford   vol.11a page 403

The male's name in particular caught my eye. These deaths were before Robert Crawford married Elizabeth Hamilton.

Looby :)

Added - There is also a birth for a Thomas Hamilton Crawford same quarter of 1862 same place = vol11a page 641

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 00:19 BST (UK) »
Added - There is also a birth for a Thomas Hamilton Crawford same quarter of 1862 same place = vol11a page 641

Good work Looby,

Annie

EDITED..........to delete wrong info.  ::)  ::)
Should have gone to Specsavers  ;D
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 00:27 BST (UK) »
There is also a baptism of a Robert Crawford = https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1RS-7JF Parents are Robert Crawford and Ann ??  on 4th Fay 1859 at Pembroke Dock, Pembroke.
Could this be Robert with a 1st wife and the son who travels with him on SS Sicilia in 1867 ?

Looby :)


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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 00:33 BST (UK) »
Added - There is also a birth for a Thomas Hamilton Crawford same quarter of 1862 same place = vol11a page 641

Good work Looby,

This Thomas possibly  ???

from earlier in 1906 (August)

LICENSING. On the application of Mr F. S. Reed, who applied on behalf of the Official Receiver, the license of the Picton Castle Inn, Neyland, previously held by Mrs Susan Evans, was transferred to Thomas Hamilton, of Glasgow.

Annie

Hi Annie,
I think that the Thomas Hamilton Crawford born in 1862 dies as a baby. There is a birth and death recorded in same Dec quarter  :-\        I wonder if he was called after  Thomas Hamilton.

Looby :)

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 00:52 BST (UK) »
Looby........

Forget my post.................too tired, didn't notice Crawford, was focused on the Thomas  ;D  ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 07:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your input re Robt Crawford and the Hamiltons.  I did see the two Crawford births and have recorded them on my tree as I do believe they must have been born to Elizabeth Crawford (nee Hamilton).

Here's a little timeline that might help:

Robt Crawford died Jan 1867 on board SS Sicilia
Marion Inglis Crawford m Wm Edward Gilbert in 1889
Susan McLean Crawford m Josiah Evans in 1894
Marion Hamilton (Elizabeth's mother) d 1896
Thomas Hamilton snr (Elizabeth's father) d 1897
Elizabeth Crawford d 1899

So when it comes to a tsf of license in 1906 that must be from Marion Gilbert (nee Crawford) to her uncle Thomas Hamilton (Elizabeth's brother) b 1839.  I haven't been able to trace him since the 1881 census aged 40, Married (to whom?) and serving as a steward on the SS Malakoff in Pembrokeshire...thanks Mabel!  I can focus my search in Glasgow now.

As for Robt Crawford's death...I haven't had experience with the Marine Death Register so if anyone can advise how I go about that it would be handy.  I'm thinking that Robt died in Scottish waters?  Does that mean it will come up on S/P?

Looby, your sighting of a Robt Crawford birth to Robt snr and an Ann in 1859 may be another clue in locating Robt Crawford in his life pre-Elizabeth...thank you.  :)

Mabel, your information re the licensing of the hotel...is that accessible?  And does anyone know just how many lives were lost when the Sicilia foundered?

Life was so precarious back then...   :(

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 21:22 BST (UK) »
Susan Evans' bankruptcy
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4162305/4162307/43/

Licence from Susan Evans to  Thomas Hamilton
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4117452/4117456/41/

and from Thomas Hamilton to Marion Gilbert
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3064245/3064249/40/

Later temporary closure of the hotel
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3433309/3433312/48/

Some complicated buying and reselling of hired furniture following Susan Evans' bankruptcy
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4250846/4250854/95/

Marion is charged with selling after hours - item suggests she has sold the pub
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3064425/3064429/38/

Marion went on to the Malsters Arms in Pembroke, but appears not to have made much of a go of that either.
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4282184/4282186/21/

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Re: Robt Crawford and Elizabeth Hamilton born Scotland but reside Pembroke
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 22 July 15 22:21 BST (UK) »
And a bit more on Marian Gilbert's difficulties

Non recording of spirits received
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4281716/4281722/60/

Charged with being drunk on the premises
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3415878/3415883/149/

Alleged Sunday trading
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4281950/4281957/53/

non payment of rates
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4282229/4282237/112/

her life can;t have  been easy, as her husband died in 1902 whilst she was pregnant
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3645878/3645881/18/