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1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« on: Sunday 10 July 05 21:06 BST (UK) »
Trying to trace back a Thomas family in Wales! I'm looking for Leah Thomas born Blaen y Coed or Conwil Elvet, Carmarthenshire around 1847. She is the daughter of Hannah Thomas (born circa 1811) and/or Benjamin Thomas (born circa 1814). Any chance of finding this family in 1851 please? There were, as I recall, rather a lot of Benjamin and Hannah Thomases, but I'm hoping Leah is a more helpful name. The other village that seems to figure prominently is Cilrhedyn, so they could be there.

Any help in this impossible mission most gratefully received.

Lyndon

Watkins - Swansea. Thomas - Carmarthenshire. Stock - Rowberrow. Jarman - Montgomeryshire. Duck - Calne. Watts - Frome.

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 March 06 17:13 BST (UK) »
Did you ever find Leah, Lyndon ?

I could see no sign of her.

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 March 06 10:54 BST (UK) »
No luck yet, I'm afraid   :(

Watkins - Swansea. Thomas - Carmarthenshire. Stock - Rowberrow. Jarman - Montgomeryshire. Duck - Calne. Watts - Frome.

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 March 06 10:55 BST (UK) »
Have you found her on later censuses?

Do you have her baptism - perhaps she used a middle name?

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 March 06 15:50 BST (UK) »
Think this is her in 1851 at Pontcych,Cilrhedyn,Kenarth.Anna Thomas/Widow/41/Dressmaker/Kilredin,Carms/Rachel Thomas/dau/11/Kilredin,Pembs/David Thomas/son/9/Kilrhedin,Pembs/Sarah Thomas/dau/6/Conwyl Carms and Lea Thomas/dau/4/Conwyl Carms.Rachel James /Apprentice/20/Dressmakers Apprentice.Also in Carmarthenshire in Qtr April 1853 a Benjamin Thomas married a Hannah Thomas.So this looks likely as there is not another Leah b-1847 Conwyl that I can find.Best Wishes Welsh Lady
This information is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 March 06 16:01 BST (UK) »
Ah, fantastic. Thank you Welsh Lady. Yep, that sure looks like the one. That's brill.

I recently came across this too.

Cambrian B10 MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE  08 December 1838
KILREHDYN CHURCH,PEMBROKE:MR TIMOTHY THOMAS (82) TO MISS ANNA EVANS (28) - BOTH OF KILRHEDYN.

If that age is right for Timothy Thomas, it certainly explains why she was widow in 1851, and also raises some very interesting questions.
Watkins - Swansea. Thomas - Carmarthenshire. Stock - Rowberrow. Jarman - Montgomeryshire. Duck - Calne. Watts - Frome.

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 March 06 16:38 BST (UK) »
Lyndon heres that couple in 1841 at Cnwcybeily? Cilrhedyn Timothy Thomas /80/Farmer/Y/Anna Thomas/25/Y/Anna Thomas/15/Y.David Thomas/5/N.Yes big age gap and he went on to have 4 children with Anna well into his old age fair play.Anna and David mentioned above could be his children from his first marriage or his Grandchildren?Best Wishes Welsh Lady
This information is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock

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Re: 1851 Census - Blaen y Coed / Conwil Elvet
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 March 06 17:32 BST (UK) »
That's great. So the age was right! My 2 x g Grandmother  (Anna) was obviously quite a character. The best bit of colour in the family tree for a long time. I went all through the 1841 census for the area and must have missed them.

Bless you! I'm now much closer to nailing this family legend!

Best wishes. Lyndon
Watkins - Swansea. Thomas - Carmarthenshire. Stock - Rowberrow. Jarman - Montgomeryshire. Duck - Calne. Watts - Frome.
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