Skelmanthorpe Cemetery (tombstone) help please

[kit54]

Hi,
Please can anyone help me?
I have been told that in Skelmanthorpe Cemetery, there is a tombstone for Joseph and  Sarah Gawthorpe, who ran the Three Horse Shoes pub on Commercial Road.
They married in Wakefield in 1810 and Sarah's maiden name was Whoffendal and I think, she was buried in the Cemetery on 5/1/1856, aged 76.
Please, is anyone in a position to have a look at this tombstone and tell me what it says, in particular, I am very keen to see what it says about Joseph, as I cannot find any burial record for him in the usual places eg Emley/ High Hoyland etc?
I would be so grateful for any help with this - perhaps someone has this information already, as I know there are other people researching this line.

Thanks,

Chris

[carolanne]

I've just Googled  Skelmanthorpe Cemetery and its showing that www.yorkshireindexers have a gallery but you have to join to view the actual photos of the gravestones.
Regards Carolanne

[kit54]

Thanks very much for that Carolanne,

I'm still hoping that someone who is researching these two will see my post, and that they will already have this info to hand!

Thanks again,

Chris

[carolanne]

Your welcome, fingers x'd somebody else can help.
Regards Carolanne

[dobfarm]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8J6-TZ4

GRO death (There was only 1 Sarah Gawthorp(e) recorded death that year in 1956 in the whole country)

Deaths Oct to Dec 1856
Gawthorp  Sarah    Huddersfield  9a 176

Gawthorp  Sarah Burial West Clayton (Clayton west) 5 Nov 1856


http://www.alanreardon.webspace.virginmedia.com/page25.html




There is a little problem in your theories.

A parish cemetery would never have an un -consecrated or general section in it with its own consecrated area (see link below)

http://archiveswiki.wyjs.org.uk/index.php?title=Cemetery_Registers_held_by_Huddersfield_Local_Studies_library


Skelmanthorpe cemetery did not open till 1887 which is run by Kirklees council cemeteries.
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http://dp.genuki.uk/cgi-bin/churchentry?CCC=WRY,ID=1061


 Though, the Trinity Evangelical Church, Skelmanthorpe-(an Evangelical church) is in the same place as the cemetery, it does not have a graveyard/cemetery of its own. (See link above)

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http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%201.pdf

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%202.pdf

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%205.pdf

[J.R.Ellam]

Hi

West Clayton & High Hoyland dates back to the 1720's so it is the most like, but you could try Scissett that opened in 1840.

John

[dobfarm]

As I can't find a death for an adult (cross ref with family search { only infants coming up]) Joseph in the free bmds Wakefield,  Barnsley or Huddersfield website GRO death from July-Sept qtr 1837

Can you confirm if Joseph Gawthorp(e) was or was not on the 1841c with his wife Sarah (note his age 1841 within 5 years round off)
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http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/documents/archives/Collections%20Guide%202.pdf

There is a death of Joseph Gawthorp (No e) at Clayton Baptist chapel 1833 (Clayton in Bradford baptist chapel registers did not start to 1906 see link above)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQYB-P53

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/bmdr/results.php?data=TCUxNiUwQiUxRCUxOCUwN1hIJTExQVklMEIlMTZFJTAwJTAwWiUxNSUwQSUwNSUxRiUzQyUwNSUxNEIrJTE3JTQwJTE2JTFEJTEyXyUxMSUxNiUwNyUxMCU1QiUxOCUxMEIlMEYlMEUlMUZTRSUwM0JTJTA0JTE3JTA2QmglMEJGRk0lMURXVCUwN0hFJTE5S0hTRSUwNSUwREJQ&page=2

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/help/recordset_info.php?rs=RG4&piece=3025&sub_piece=

[kit54]

Hi Carolanne, dobfarm and John,

Firstly, many thanks to you all for your kind replies - I'm very grateful for all your efforts on my behalf, and as usual, you have come up with some great info/advice.
I obtained the info re the tombstone from a source about 2 years ago and at the time it contradicted  some of the other data I had on this family, so I've been sitting on it.  However, I have now been researching this line intensively over the past few months, and what I really wanted, was to see if it could be verified.
Thanks for the info re Skel Cemetery; the fact that it was only opened in 1887 means that any tombstone in there cannot be for the above Joseph and Sarah Gawthorp (But, it could be that my source was wrong about the Cemetery/Churchyard!).
(The surname Gawthorp is making research difficult, because, I think that it has, at times, been morphed, into other variations especially Goldthorp.)
The 1833 Bradford burial is not the right one, as he was 38 when he died, so too young for my Joseph Gawthorp, but thanks anyway - it is good to be able to eliminate it.
re the 1841 census for Skel:
There is a Sarah GAWTHORP age 60 Publican - she is the above Sarah Whoffendal
AND
Joseph GOLDTHORP age 40 Publican (also married to a Sarah)
I now think that the tombstone that this post is about is theirs, but it is in High Hoyland graveyard, NOT Skel Cemetery?
So, thanks to you, I think that the problem has been solved,
BUT! I still cannot find a burial for Joseph, husband to Sarah Whoffendal, somewhere between about 1820 - 1841, which is what I am really after, and was the reason why I was so keen to get info re this tombstone!

Thanks very much again for all your help,

Chris

[carolanne]

Hi Chris
I've just been looking in Ancestry at the burial records for West Yorkshire  and can see a Sarah Gawthorp abode Skelmanthorpe  buried 5 November 1856 age 76 at All Saints Clayton West / High Hoyland so born around 1780.
Still in the same records in Ancestry I've gone backwards 5 years at a time and have come across a burial in the same churchyard for a Joseph Gawthorp abode Skelmanthorpe buried 28 November 1813 age 78.
I'm not saying he's the one your after because he's 40+ years older than Sarah but I can't see another Joseph Gawthorp who died before 1841.
Carolanne