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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Wilcoxon, here you go....
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=726900.new#new

I'll go back and save more of the page in case it helps.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 21:06 BST (UK) »
Could be Cloy. there was a Cloy farm in  Overton.

http://www.overton-on-dee.co.uk/old_docs/documents/OvertonUtilities.pdf

see page 6
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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 21:22 BST (UK) »
Entirely fascinating links wilcoxon.Of course there are a lot of my Direct Ancestors who also hail from Overton.


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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 21:43 BST (UK) »
Yes thanks from me too, lovely to read about the area :)
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 22:22 BST (UK) »
Here's what I believe to be the marriage of John and Sarah:
8 Feb 1817 at Ruabon, John, of the parish of Llangollen, and Sarah of the parish of Ruabon, by licence. Witnesses: Richard Edwards and Elizabeth Roberts (all signed)

I've found some info on Joseph and his 4 siblings:
Frances, born 18 May 1817, baptised 12 Oct 1817 in Overton
Joseph, born 23 April 1820, baptised 30 Dec 1821, married Sarah Davies nee Roberts at Ruabon on 21 Oct 1839, died May 1879
Richard and Thomas, twins, born 23 April and baptised 2 June 1822 - Richard married Sarah Allen in Overton, had 9 or more children and died in Overton in 1894. Thomas, possibly in the workhouse in Wrexham in 1891, but nothing else found so far. 
George, baptised on 8 Jan 1826, married Eliza Henshall in Shropshire in 1850, had 6 or more children, last seen as a widower in 1901 aged 74 in Whitchurch, Shropshire (recorded as deaf from birth).

No obvious burials in Overton for John or Sarah (or daughter Frances), but maybe they moved away and had more children. Neither appears to be with any of their children. No luck looking for John and Sarah in 1841 or 1851 but difficult without knowing their age or place of birth. I've also looked for John born Llangollen but nothing there either. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 00:39 BST (UK) »
Of course there is always the possibility that John and Saraak Edwards ma have been living in the Erbistock Parish in 1841 as both Parishes are barely half a mile apart.Unfortunately though,if that is the case you are doomed as to never finding them.Apart from a portion of the Wrexham Town the 1841 Census for the Wrexham area is missing I'm afraid.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Overton baptisms - Joseph Edwards (abt 1820) and siblings
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 06:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks WRJ, good to know, though the 1841 isn't very helpful really for age, relationship or place of birth  :)

I was hoping to find them in 1851 as they might have only been in their 50s so will keep looking for now. I did find a widowed Sarah in Staffordshire giving place of birth as Llangollen, which I'll look at again.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....