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Grave numbers and positions
« on: Tuesday 28 July 15 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hello. I'm just getting to grips with searching for burials on the Mcr Gov site. Can I check, I am right in thinking that when it says....

MNon Conformist - this is an area of the cemetery

Grave 2074 - this is the grave number

Position - when there are multiple people buried in the same plot?

My G.Grandparents are in the same grave number and position 1 and 2. Just the two of them. My G.Grandma's daughter from her first marriage died in 1903 as an infant is in grave 904, positition 17 out of 21. There is at least one other child amongst them. Better go and check if there were any epidemics in 1903....
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Re: Grave numbers and positions
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 13:04 BST (UK) »
As far as position goes,  one would expect it to be in date order.
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Re: Grave numbers and positions
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 14:06 BST (UK) »
But I'm right in thinking they are all in the same grave / plot?

Is 21 a normal number? They were all buried between 27/7/1903 and 14/9/1903.
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Re: Grave numbers and positions
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 14:23 BST (UK) »
Workhouses and hospitals usually made an arrangement with the cemetery owner to reserve space especially in the case of babies including stillborn and 21 in a plot would not be unusual. These would not identify any of the deceased by name.

Some people of a poor background who would find it difficult or impossible to afford to purchase a grave sometimes paid a weekly sum to a burial club. The society would purchase ground and when members died they were buried and later "community headstones" were erected and these had all the names inscribed - often called guinea graves.
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Re: Grave numbers and positions
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 July 15 15:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much. They're all listed by name on the MCC website so I'm guessing it wasn't the hospital? She was about 6 months old having been born in the February. I thought she might have burried with her father who died in Q4 of 1902 but sadly not, I can't find his burial record.

I don't think G.Grandma was in the poor house, she lived at 304 City Road, Hulme from having her daughter christened to getting married to her second husband.

I guess I'll have to add Annie's death certificate to the list of ones I need to order.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 16:35 BST (UK) »
Hospital grave plot records could have the name of the patient if that was the local practice but by law workhouse residents [to protect their dignity] were not allowed to be named as such.
Avery [Wembury]
Skilton [Hooe, Turnchapel, Plymstock and Coxside Plymouth]
Williams [Plymstock/Oreston]
Maritime subjects inc Titanic, HMS Hardy, HMS Thetis [submarine]
UK cemetery conservation
Cholera
Victorian social history