John. Thompson & martha Miller.

[tammiegirl]

My husbands great grandparents  were John & Martha thompson nee millar  lived in Ballymena . I have information that they were buried in Ballyclug Cemertry ,Matha died in 1909and lived in James St  and John died in 1932 and lived in. Water St  Ballymena, I have checked the online Ballyclug records but cannot find them, I do know Their daughter Jane ( jennie )Robinson was buried there after and also her daughter Cassie Nelson,but it would be nice to know John & Martha were there . Would be glad of any information  ?

[aghadowey]

Do you mean this website?
http://www.thebraid.com/genealogy.aspx
"Headstone inscriptions have been collected from across 42 historic graveyards in the Borough of Ballymena. 41 of the 42 graveyards have been transferred onto a database, which can be searched below."

These are transcriptions of headstone, not burial records.

[tammiegirl]

Yes,I did mean that one.thankyou for your reply

[tammiegirl]

I have found a marriage cert for a John Thompson & Martha Miller married in  magerafelt in 1863.  There were 6 children all baptised in Cookstown  ,but there were 3children as well not baptised. I have found John in the 1911census with family  so I know it is him on it he say,a he was born in antrim. In the census they were in shankill. But later lived for years in James St & water St ballymena .i wonder if I have 2john thompsons and the cookstown one is wrong  can anyone help.

[aghadowey]

Is this 'your' John Thompson?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Finley_Street/171906

If so, is this his daughter Jane in 1901 and is Catherine John's wife?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Aughancloy_Urban_Aughancloy_Town_in_17_files/Mill_Street/1724175
Note: you said earlier Martha Thompson died 1909 but I can't locate her in 1901 census.

1863 Marriage (Tamlaght O'Crilly, not Magherafelt) for John Thompson & Martha Miller-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNR-54V

Margaret (1864 Bellaghy) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQT-RD7
James (1866 Cookstown) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR47-Z7L
Agnes (1868 Coikstown) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5VH-4YB
Eliza (1870 Cookstown) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPYX-7GS
John (1872 Cookstown) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGH3-JF2
Martha (1873 Co.Tyrone) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGC8-2G4

Note: the 6 records above are extracted birth registrations not baptisms

[tammiegirl]

The 1911census is correct as John had been looking after sammy cully since he was three. The 1901 census could be correct as on his son james ,s marriage cert it said his father was a wire worker. Jane would be correct, but I don't know who Catherine is .his wife was martha miller. I was told she was born in waring St ballymena in 1847 and died in James. St ballymena in 1909and that they were both burried in ballyclug cemertry. The children are the ones I have got on St Lorians records for eliza 1870baptised it says John was a Carter and they lived in gortalowery but for Jane and 2 other daughters I have no record . Thankyou for you help

[aghadowey]

"St Lorians records" 
Do you mean St. Luran's Church of Ireland (Cookstown)?

"son james ,s marriage cert it said his father was a wire worker."
When did James marry? since John Thompson's occupation changed it's important to know if the marriage refenrence (wire worker) is around the time of the 1901 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Aughancloy_Urban_Aughancloy_Town_in_17_files/Mill_Street/1724175
This Catherine Thompson was born in Co. Louth which doesn't fit with what you seem to have been told about Martha Millar.

I did find a John Thompson, carter, with wife Martha in Ballymena in 1901 but the details don't match any of the Cookstown area family.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballymena_and_Town_and_Urban_District_of_Ballymena/Queen_Street/927166

I did find a Martha Thompson death 1909 in Ballymena registration district- age 70 so born c1839
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRFY-3PN

However, I have to say that none of the details you've posted so far and what I have found so far is very clear. I suispect you might be treating family stories as facts then trying to make records fit but you really need to start with records and go through everything step-by-step.

[tammiegirl]

Yes,I did mean St luran,s. James who is my husbands grandfather and we know his details are right. He married a Fanny Jane Carson in 1882 and John proffesion say,s LAbourer, he was married in Ballybay Co Monaghan. THen in 1892 he married Ellen White my husbands grandmother in Ballybay their Marriage cert says james is a Widower and his fathers proffesion is a wire worker but the writing is not great, it looks like wire worker to me. 1911 census definately right.1901 not sure now ,although his daughter Jane  (. Jeannie  ) had a daughter called cassie .I wondered if this is short for Catherine  .If That Martha Thompson is correct that make her 53  when Jane was born .on james 1901  railway terrace ballybay he says he was born in Tyrone but on his 1911it says Co Monaghan  I am sure that was a mistake. Apart from johns 1911 census ,I have,t really got any records, but thanks again for your help

[aghadowey]

Have been working through this puzzle off and on all day today and I may be close to unraveling some of it but have some questions to make sure I'm heading in the right direction.

1) does the name Andrew Thompson ring any bells?
2) was Cassie's husband John Nelson?
3) could the 1892 marriage say father's occupation was mill worker rather than wire worker?