Robert RAE/REAY/REA/RAY alive in 1857 but where is he in 1851?

[jennywren001]

Hi Everyone,
I've been looking on and off for this chap for what seems like years now....In 1857 Diana Rae gets married to George Nicol in St Cyrus and the witnesses are a Margaret Taylor (no idea who she is) and a Robert Rae. Diana had a brother Robert born in 1818 and I think the witness might be him - well I'm hoping it's him.
Robert's birth:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYND-G6J

I've tried to find him in 1851 but the closest I've come is a Robert Rae, shoemaker living Aberdeenshire but he consistently states he was born in Skene. Strangely, he has a James Nicol, father-in-law, with his on the 1851 census.
Jen

[rosie17]

Hi is this his mother Margaret McBay b 1776 St Cyrus living with her daughter Diana Jolly b 1815 St Cyrus ( captain seamans wife )
Margaret Jolly b 1842 Montrose

William Jolly b 1844 St Cyrus

David Jolly b 1848 St Cyrus
Is this the same family 1851 census St Cyrus Kincardineshire ?

[rosie17]

This Robert Rae in the 1851 census was married to a Mary Nicol 1842 Inverurie she died 1848 and he was a widower in the 1851 census ..Tree has his birth certificate parent's were William Rae and Jean Christie

[jennywren001]

Hi Rosie,

Yes that's Robert's mom - the Jollys have been done to dead on Rootschat. The link below is about Diana's first husband the dreaded captain - George Nicol was her second husband. Please, don't waste time on the Jollys they are all in a little box waiting to be written up. I'm looking for a few last folk so I know I've covered all the bases as best I can before I start scribbling.....when I was reviewing my paperwork I realised I'd not followed through on Robert Rae.

Rosie you're too quick! Looks like I can write the shoemaker off as a likely candidate - wonder if that birth took place in Skene or even Aberdeenshire?

Jen

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=663576.msg5227242#msg5227242

[rosie17]

Birth for Robert 11th August 1818 Skene ...I some how thought it was the same Diana Jolly/Nicol 
Rosie

[rosie17]

Yes he is hard to find on any of the census forms perhaps he died or went overseas   

[jennywren001]

I think I'll have to start giving my Jollys nom de plumes ...

Thanks Rosie the shoemaker has been crossed off the list.
Jen

[Forfarian]

I don't suppose William Rae could have been married twice, making Robert and Diana half-siblings? And it is possible, though very unusual, for a child to be born in one parish and baptised in another.

If I were you I'd check the shoemaker's death certificate, just in case.

Another thought - could Rae have been mistranscribed/indexed as Kae?

[jennywren001]

Hi Forfarian,
This is Diana's brother:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYND-G6J
Their mother Margaret McBey didn't die until 1864 and was still with her husband on the 1841 census living St Cyrus - just rechecked that and see they had two young children with them a John Hood age 9 and a William Rae age 6 must follow through on them...

As Rosie mentioned there was a Robert Rae born in Skene - snip attached from OPR. I'm pretty sure he is the shoemaker as on one of the census his place of birth is transcribed as 'Letter'.

There is a Robert Rae in the navy records at FindMyPast - his dob is given as 1820 and it lists only Scotland as his place of birth - also the record only covers the years 45 to 48.

I've tried searching on Kay/Kea/Kae in 51 but I can't find anyone born St Cyrus or thereabouts.

Now wondering if the Robert Rae who signs at the marriage is maybe unrelated
Jen

Just found this!!!
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYND-R4M
I'm not sure how I ever missed that - hopefully the OPR will reveal all....