Craigley, Cork?

[dathai]

Contradicted by Irish Genealogy as James.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/06df0e0303843

you would need to see the actual church register

http://registers.nli.ie/

[taramcdsmall]

I think you need to go back to the drawing board with Michael in England before even starting to look at Ireland..

You've no marriage cett for him so you don't know his father's name or ooccupation.

You can only find one child's birth cert too which asks more questions.

His name is a common one so it's very possible that you are looking at the military records for two different men.

If I were you I would go to the England boards and look for more help with locating records for his children and then that important marriage cert.

When you have baptism look for possible family as witness'.

Look for the family in old local newspapers and see can you get any leads that way.

Good Luck

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

OP doesn't know who the parents were.

Is this link based on anything ?

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

. . . Also Downing is what they are looking for !

Tara

[Downing]

I think you need to go back to the drawing board with Michael in England before even starting to look at Ireland..

You've no marriage cett for him so you don't know his father's name or ooccupation.

You can only find one child's birth cert too which asks more questions.

His name is a common one so it's very possible that you are looking at the military records for two different men.

If I were you I would go to the England boards and look for more help with locating records for his children and then that important marriage cert.

When you have baptism look for possible family as witness'.

Look for the family in old local newspapers and see can you get any leads that way.

Good Luck

Tara

I acknowledge your point about finding the marriage certificate in England. However, I do not know that the marriage was in England. The 1851, 1871 and 1881 censuses all detail children born in various locations such as Ireland (after he had moved to England), as well as Glasgow, Newcastle, Colchester and Stafford. And they occur in a strange order. But birth/church records are a complete mystery - that's why it's it's so strange. I'm pretty sure that the military records are the correct ones as they mention regimental changes which are corroborated by the census data, the later regiment was quite an obscure one (2nd Stafford Militia) so that gives me a fair deal of confidence. It does seem strange that so many sources are elusive here. But it is my understanding that these mRriages and births should have been registered properly as the military did not record such instances until several years later.

[taramcdsmall]

Please give the details on the child born in Ireland.

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

As he was married before civil registration began then IF the marriage was in Ireland then the only way we can search is by church to see if records still exist.

Given that you don't know if they even married in Ireland, let alone are even sure of a county then it means this avenue is closed for now.

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

What county was his wife from ?

Tara

[hallmark]

Much better if the posters posts what is actually known instead of having to be quizzed over and over!!