Nolan / Brown marriage

[AthenaGr]

Hi
On my Great grandfather's marriage entry from St Catherine's Church Meath street Dublin on 16th November 1890 I found his parents names however when trying to go further to find my great great grandparents marriage etc I have come to a dead end.

My great gr grand fathers name on the marriage cert of my gr.grandfather was listed as
             Jacobi (James) Nolan (deceased by this date)
Mother : Johanne ( Jane ? ) Brown ( deceased by this date) .

If anyone could help me locate details regarding this marriage it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Kind regards

[aghadowey]

You've already a topic for this from 2011-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=543258

[AthenaGr]

 Ah sorry .. I haven't worked on my research for quite a few years ..I completely forgot that I had already asked for help before on this particular part of the familytree . So as you can see I'm still not any the wiser since 2011 when I first posted my question.

Thank you for your help.

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

What was Patrick's address on his marriage cert ?

Who were the witness' on the marriage cert ?

Given that he died before the 1901 census we can't confirm where he was born and his age !

Do you have his death cert ?

Tara

[AthenaGr]

Hi Tara ,
I have attached the information that I received from St Catherine's records.
Patrick Nolan died 11th November 1899. I haven't applied for his death certificate yet . He used to work for Guiness's so I got the information about his death from their records. Also it gave his age as being 30 so that would mean he was born in 1869.

Thanks so much for your help.

[taramcdsmall]

Given the timeline I'd expect something to show on extracted births but the nearest is for a Daniel b 1875 to a James and Jane Nolan in Wexford ( no maiden name mentioned).

I'll keep looking.

Tara

[annclare]

Hi Tara ,
I have attached the information that I received from St Catherine's records.
Patrick Nolan died 11th September 1899. I haven't applied for his death certificate yet . He used to work for Guiness's so I got the information about his death from their records. Also it gave his age as being 30 so that would mean he was born in 1869.

Thanks so much for your help.

I looked at the Guinness record and his age at entry was 27 in 1890 so birth possibly earlier than 1869. It may be worthwhile looking at the parish records online for free . Link to St Catherine's in Meath St.http://137.191.249.36/parishes/0495
annclare

[AthenaGr]

Hi Tara ,
Sorry for the mix up ..
Yes you're right he was taken on in Guinness's 1890 aged 27 making him born 1863
His pension records from Guinness's have his age at time of death (1899) as 37 on one paper and 38 on another which makes his birth 1862 / 1861.
The family are determined to make things difficult for me .. from having such a common name to not remembering dates properly

Again thanks so much for your help.

[myluck!]

Something to bear in mind as a possibility

Patrick NOLAN
b. Jul 13 1858 address: Ballyburn, Co. Kildare
(f) James NOLAN (m) Joanna BROWN
bap. Jul 18 1858 Castledermot RC Parish
Sponsors: John & Maria DOYLE

Probable family members (mother sometimes shown as Johanna/Hanna) baptised in Castledermot
1 Sept 09 1838 Michael
2 Jul 05 1840 John
3 Apr 03 1842 Mary
4 Aug 20 1845 Johannah (transcription states male)
5 May 16 1847 James
6 Apr 14 1850 Catherine (1)
7 Aug 01 1852 Joseph
8 Aug 05 1855 William
9 Jul 18 1858 Patrick*
10 Jul 01 1860 Catherine (2)

James NOLAN married Hannah BROWN
on Feb 10 1834 in Tinryland, Co. Carlow
no parents names given; witnesses Andrew CARTY & Mary BROWN