Author Topic: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney  (Read 3531 times)

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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 August 15 22:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Tara
All through this Bridget appears as Bridget Daly and only once as Bridget Daly Boyle. Bryan's daughter Mary is born in August 1873 after this marriage, perhaps a shotgun was involved for Bryan.... She has her next child John in 1875 a respectable time period unless of course there were tragedies in between?
Other possible earlier siting of Bryan are in the Army in the 1851 census in Everton Barracks in England. This Bryan was born around 1832 and hailed from Rattoo which is close enough to Tralee etc. Bridget's last child as far as we know was in 1880.
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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 August 15 22:55 BST (UK) »
Hi As a point I am assuming that around this time which is quite close to the famine that the populations around Tralee and the west coast was decimated and chances of a coincidence of two Bryan Boyle's and Bridget Daly's marrying with the same named children is remote? I was in Tralee earlier in June but am back home in England now doing this family tree long distance with the help of the newly met relatives.
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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:04 BST (UK) »
I take it that you have baptisms for her children.

On these a woman is only listed under her maiden name ie Bridget Daly.

It"s possible they married yet never registered it.

 This was still common for back then even though required by law.

They also might never have married ~ it happens.

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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:17 BST (UK) »
There is an 1832 Bryan Boyle who dies in 1884 in Kerry.

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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:32 BST (UK) »
In the Beaufort and Killorglin Registers my GGreatgrandparents John Cronin and Joan Hayes were witnesses to several marriages and baptisms. Although they were already married, her maiden name, Joan Hayes, was entered as witness.

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All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Tara
Yes I have this Bryan too who may have been the in the army in 1851. He was single than but could have married Bridget in England and took her to Ireland......We have a possible Bridget Daly born in Ireland 1828 but that would make her 52 when she had her last child (not impossible). I had thought before this Johnny arrived on the scene they both were born around 1855 now it looks like they could be older.
Hi Mogue thank you for that information.
Searching Abbeydorney we find Bridget Daly being a witness to of all people a marriage of another member of the Wall family in I think 1867 before this 1873 wedding. They all seemed to know each other in Kilflynn and surrounding .....
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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 August 15 23:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Bridget and Bryan go to great lengths to get their children baptised and registered etc yet it seems they do not do the same for themselves and may not even have been married...
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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 30 January 16 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi General question regarding marriage certificates and church records in Ireland. When a father is named on a birth record or stated on a marriage certificate does this mean that the father was actually at the registering/baptism or at the wedding of his children? Would you normally expect to see the word deceased on the document or would it not matter as long as he was named? I am asking this because I believe I have two marriage certs were the father is named but I need him deceased.

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Re: Bryan Boyle & Bridget Daly Abbeydorney
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 30 January 16 23:32 GMT (UK) »
The only way to tell if a father was at the registration of a birth is if he was the informant.

Marriage certificates often list the father's name and occupation without mentioning that he was deceased. Sometimes deceased is included but not all the time. A better indication can be a wedding announcement which might says something like 'daughter of the late.'
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