hannah colebourne

[teddygreen1]

hi i am trying to find a witness that was at two weddings was the same person or maybe a sibling. in 1847 samuel phillips m emily ness or nest birmingham st martins with hannah as witness. i looked for wedding for hannah and came up with a blunt but married in 1856 i think to a john coleburn.
in 1876 samuel and emily daughter sarah a phillips married a thomas colebourne  bordsley holy trinity again with hannah as a witness.please help
kath

[chempat]

Is this the Thomas Colebourne (husband of Sarah) in 1871?
Kings Heath Silver Street
John Colbourne   47  White smith  Moseley
Hannah Colbourne   47
Thomas Colbourne   17  employed in screw making  Birmingham
John Colbourne   15   employed in screw making  Kings Heath
George Colbourne   13
Hannah Colbourne   11
Samuel Colbourne   9
Aurther Colbourne   3
RG10         Piece  3078        Folio  94     Page 41

[teddygreen1]

Yes I believe so. Added fuel to fire wad looking at possibly earlier if just coleboorne and I found another wedding between a john Phillips and think it was a Sarah who was a widow . Again Hannah was witness . Kath

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There are actually a number of hannah Colebuorne (or similar) around

1851 has

Hannah b c1804, tamworth. married to a thomas. Livig inthe parish of St martin

Hannah b c1824, Birmingham. married to John the whitesmith prior to c1845 (oldest child is 6 yrs)

1861 has the second Hannah, living in Kings Norton, plus another Hannah b c1838, also married to a John, a hammer man, and living in Deritend/Aston

[teddygreen1]

Thanks for that . Have not seen th tammwotth one. Kath

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Think second Hannah (b1824) is yuors - with this connection (and different spelling)

Marriage    27 Nov 1843 Birmingham, St Martin
Hannah Phillips, full age, father John Philips
John Coborn, full age. Father Joseph Coborn


Samuel's sister??

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Have now looked at the image. Samuel Philips (mark) is a witness. John and his father are Fire iron makers. John lives at Bordesley St, Hannah at Bradford St. her father John is a chemist.

The other witness is a Caroline ?  [begins with W]

[teddygreen1]

we have no siblings for samuel although just had a look and athere is a hannah born 1824 with catherine and john as parents so think maybe cracked it although not sure about chemist .kath

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Yes does seem to fit. I have found these children born to a John and Catherine

John Phillips, baptised 2 Oct 1814, St John, Deritend and Bordesley,
Ann Phillips, baptised 3 Mar 1817, Saint Martin, Birmingham
Charles Philips, baptised 9 May 1819, St John, Deritend and Bordesley (died Oct 1819)
Caroline Phillips, baptised 3 Dec 1820, St John the Baptist, Deritend
Hannah Phillips, born 23 Feb 1824, baptised 21 Mar 1824, Bordesley
Samuel Phillips, baptised 23 Jun 1826,   Bordesley

I can see the images for all but Hannah. address is Bradford st (sometimes Bradford Court, Bradford St) except fpr Caroline, which is just Bordesley. Occupation labourer.