Michael CROWLEY - immigrated from Ireland?

[majm]

Did you notice Harkin is mentioned :

Death in victoria
   1912 Nora Crowley
   Birth year about 1842
   Age 70
   Father's name     Harkin Austin
   Mother's name    Ann Droney
reg 13601

regards
   Ros

Perhaps if you type up the all info on your Great Gran's cert?  I have noticed that quite often it is the smallest details that help sort the quests.    Yes, family history certificates are an expense.  I suggested your Gran's birth cert because it would give you info about her older siblings, as well as her parents, and herself.

Who was the informant?   If you could type up all the info gleaned from the cert other RChatters with offline resources may be able to help you further.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

I am doubtful of an Irish lass, born circa 1845 being transported 'beyond the seas" under a sentence of a criminal court. 

Transportation to NSW effectively ceased in 1840.  Victoria was not yet hived off from NSW at that time. 

Perhaps she came with family, or perhaps she came alone.  Irish Potato Famine may be an alternative 'push-pull' factor....  Gold fever another ....

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

I was wondering if anyone would be able to find where Michael originated/was born (I assume Ireland) and if there is a marriage record for Michael and Nora?

Marriage
CRAWLEY Michael
OLOUGHLIN Hannah
1863  Reg#2618

This certificate would give you the bride and groom's ages and places of birth and parents' names including the mothers' maiden names along with their fathers' occupations.  I think Victorian certificates are extremely good value at $24. 

Cando

[cando]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5705756
The Argus  7 Nov 1861
Missing friends, messages etc.
MICHAEL CROWLEY, from Bantry, County Cork, Ireland, write immediately to John Crowley, 170 King street, Melbourne

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article6482554
The Argus 10 Jan 1863
Missing friends, messages etc.
MICHAEL CROWLEY, Bantry, Cork,— write to your brother Denis, Jordan Diggings, Jericho.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5870723
The Argus  2 Sep 1873
INSOLVENT COURT
Monday, Sept. 1.
(Before Mr. R. H. MacDonnell, Chief Clerk.)
General Meetings.
General meetings were held and closed in the estates of Michael Crowley, of Wood's Point, miner, and Richard Briggs, of Sandridge, brickmoker.

Cando

[RayWitt]

Thank you Cando
Those listings make sense - Woods Point is right near Jericho, just below Lake Eildon, so perhaps his brother was writing to tell him to get there quick as the gold was being discovered.
I'll be back with more information later.

[majm]

The Michael CROWLEY who was an Assisted Passenger on the Golconda, arriving to NSW on 21 Oct 1858, was aged 20, a labourer, from County Clare.  He could Read and Write and was a Roman Catholic. 
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4795/Golconda_21%20Oct%201858/4_479500193.jpg&No=12
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/115560562 Freeman’s Journal 30 Oct 1858.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13020291  SMH 23 Oct 1858

The Vic BDM has your Michael as from Bantry, County Cork.   The newspaper cuttings have same .... So, I think it is unlikely for your Michael to be the passenger from County Clare, born c1838, arriving into Sydney NSW on that voyage.

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I found a listing of immigration for Michael Crowley from Liverpool, 1858 to NSW on board the Golconda. Assisted passage, sponsored by Margaret Pursell. Occupation: labourer. Listed as being able to read and write. No family in Australia.....

The newspaper cuttings from Cando are giving you at least two brothers for Michael....    (John and Denis)



Cheers,  JM

[cando]

A Daniel 22 years and a Michael CROWLEY 20 years arriving Victoria on Nov 1858 on the WHITE STAR
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ftv/

If I was researching this family the next step would be to purchase this certificate.

Marriage
CRAWLEY Michael
OLOUGHLIN Hannah
1863  Reg#2618

Cando

Births

CROWLEY Catherine
Father Michael   Mother Hanora OLOUGHLIN
At Woods Point  1864  Reg#19166

CROWLEY John Thomas
Father Michael  Mother Honora LOUGHLAN
At Woods Point  1866  Reg#5687

CROWLEY James
Father Michael    Mother:Honora OLOUGHLIN
At Woods Point  1868  Reg#6436

CROWLEY Margaret Ann
Father Michael   Mother Honora LAUCHLAN
At Woods Point  1869  Reg#25940

CROWLEY Michael
Father Michael   Mother Norah OLOUGHLIN
At Woods Point  1872  Reg#6427

CROWLEY Austin
Father Micheal  Mother Norah OLOUGHLIN
At Melbourne North  1873  Reg#25406
 
CROWLEY Nicholas William
Father Michael    Mother Honora OLOUGHLIN
At Melbourne  1875  Reg#24064

CROWLEY Anne
Father Michael    Mother Hanorah OLOUGHLEN
At Carlton  1877  Reg#13919

CROWLEY Dennis
Father Michael   Mother Hanora O LOUGHLIN
At Carlton  1879  Reg#7539

CROWLEY Catherine
Father Michael  Mother Norah OLOUGHLIN
At Carlton  1880  Reg#13985
 
CROWLEY Bernard
Father Michael  Mother Norah OLOUGHLIN
At Carlton  1883  Reg#7684

Deaths
CROWLEY Mary   [Is this Catherine born 1864?]
Father Michael  Mother Honorah UNKNOWN
1866  1 year   Born Woods Point  Reg#3777

CROWLEY Annie 
Father Michael   Mother Hanora HARKINS
1877  3 months  Born Carlton  Reg#10316   

CROWLEY Denis
Father Michael   Mother Hanora OLOUGHLIN
1879  3 months  Born Carlton  Reg#3977

CROWLEY Bernard
Father Michael  Mother Nora OLOUGHLIN
At Carlton  1 year  1884  Reg#579

Cando

[cando]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article10495026
The Argus 29 Nov 1912
CROWLEY. On the 28th November, at the Eye and Ear Hospital, Michael Crowley, of Pound Creek, beloved husband of Norah Crowley, aged 75

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66182065
South Bourke and Mornington Journal 19 Dec 1912
Two old residents of the Inverloch district in the persons of Mr and Mrs Michael Crowley died within the past fortnight. Mr Crowley died in Melbourne where he was under medical attention for for an eye trouble. The news came as a surprise to all, and Mrs Crowley received such a shock that she only survived her husband by a week. Deceased were 74 and 75 years of age respectively.   

Death
CROWLEY Michael
Parents unknown
At Melbourne East  75 years  1912  Reg#15283

CROWLEY Nora
Father Harkin Austin  Mother Ann DRONEY
At Carlton North  70 years  1912  Reg#13601

Cando

[RayWitt]

Yes, that is the siblings!

From the Certificate -
Child: Catherine (not present)
Born: 15 May 1880, corner Grattan and Madeline street; Smith Ward; City of Melbourne; County of Bourke
Sex: Female
Father: Michael Crowley; Labourer, 37 born Cork, Ireland
Married: 11th August 1863 Woods Point.
Children: Minnie (dead), John 14, James 12, Margaret 10, Michael 8, Austin 6, Nicholas 4, Anne (dead), Dennis (dead).
Mother: Nora Crowley formerly OLoughlin, 35 born County Clare, Ireland
Informant: Nora Crowley, mother, Carlton (declaration made as by-law required)
Witnesses: 1. (I can't read the heading) Not Any; 2. Nurse by whom certified - Mrs O'Dwyer; 3. Name of occupiers or other witnesses - M Crowley
Registered: 31st July 1880, Carlton; Signed by John Shannon(?)

Not listed is a sister also named Catherine born 1864 @ Woods Point (the first of the children) who I don't have a death record of but possibly died at birth or as an infant, and "Minnie" I'm guessing is Mary who was born 1865 and died 1866 also @ Woods Point.  There are BDM listings for both so I'm assuming they are separate children.

So, I will discount Michael coming to Australia in 1858 aboard the Golconda as he would have been too young (and from the wrong place) but if his age in Catherine's birth cert is correct and he was 37 in 1880, he was born c. 1843.  If he was 75 at his death in 1912, he was born c.1837.

That immigration record for Daniel and Michael could very well fit with the approx birth date.

Again, the death record from the paper is all I was going by as to where/when/how he died.