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Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« on: Monday 03 August 15 11:42 BST (UK) »
My name is Janelle Taylor and I live in Brisbane. I am trying to track someone who may know any descendants of the Kennedy family. My great grandmother Susan Isabel Skyner (rip 1917 age 22) was born Kennedy - her parents were Susan Kennedy (Edis) and George Robert McEwan Kennedy. She married William Amos Skyner (originally from Toxeth Park in England) and they had my grandfather Frederick Amos Skinner in Broken Hill 1915. I believe that Susan and Williams family were mostly living around Port Pirie and Port Wakefield in South Australia.
I would love to find anyone who may have photos or info about my great grandparents.

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 August 15 13:18 BST (UK) »
My name is Janelle Taylor and I live in Brisbane. I am trying to track someone who may know any descendants of the Kennedy family. My great grandmother Susan Isabel Skyner (rip 1917 age 22) was born Kennedy - her parents were Susan Kennedy (Edis) and George Robert McEwan Kennedy. She married William Amos Skyner (originally from Toxeth Park in England) and they had my grandfather Frederick Amos Skinner in Broken Hill 1915. I believe that Susan and Williams family were mostly living around Port Pirie and Port Wakefield in South Australia.
I would love to find anyone who may have photos or info about my great grandparents.

If you have access to ancestry there are several trees on there some of whom have Susan as the wife other have Lucy Florence Gormley  as well as different parents so you will need to check carefully what details are correct.

Have a look at this one http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/36485877/person/19978883688?ssrc=&ml_rpos=4 and if you search on ancestry for William Amos McIntosh Skyner you will see the others.
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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 August 15 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Janelle,
   Welcome to rootschat  :)

Death notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95455063

memoriam notice

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page9187645
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page9187653

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 August 15 13:47 BST (UK) »
An announcement by a William SKYNER of a name change to William SKINNER in 1918
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5561303

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 August 15 13:54 BST (UK) »
Marriage notice for Susan's parents
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36305081

KENNEDY—EDIS. —On the 23rd April, at Port
Wakefield, by the Rev. J. Watts, George Robert,
fourth son of Robert Kennedy, of Port Wakefield, to
Susan, second daughter of James Edis, also of Port
Wakefield.

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 August 15 23:33 BST (UK) »
From https://www.genealogysa.org.au/ 
  Susan KENNEDY died in 1927  at Clare reg 493/261, husband is George McEwen KENNEDY

  Some stories about her sad death
     http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95869765
     http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165627408
     http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95869227
     http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article165627028
     http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article54879198

An obit to George McEwen KENNEDY
  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95873156
and funeral notice
  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95873212

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 09:29 BST (UK) »
And a welcome from me as well :)

Always treat online trees with caution...so many copy and paste incorrect research.

Marriage
KENNEDY George Robert 22 years  Status Single  Father Robert KENNEDY
EDIS Susan 21 years  Status Single  Father James EDIS
23 Apr 1885
At the residence of Robert Kennedy, Port Wakefield  Gil 143/442

Birth
KENNEDY Susan Isabelle
7 Nov 1894
Father George McEwin KENNEDY  Mother Susan EDIS
At Port Wakefield    Gil S 552/151

Siblings
KENNEDY Ethel May
28 Apr 1886
Father George McEwin KENNEDY  Mother Susan EDIS
At Port Wakefield  Gil 373/26

KENNEDY Beatrice May
23 Mar 1888
Father George McEwin KENNEDY  Mother Susannah EDIS
At Port Wakefield  Gil 414/44

KENNEDY Herbert George
15 Aug 1889
Father George McEwin KENNEDY  Mother Susan EDIS
At Port Wakefield  Gil 443/308

KENNEDY Daisy
18 Aug 1892
Father George McEwin KENNEDY  Mother Susan EDIS
At Port Wakefield  Gil 506/299

KENNEDY Roy McKewin
25 Nov 1896
Father George McKewin KENNEDY  Mother Susan EDIS
At Gawler  Bar 595/68

Marriage
SKYNER William Amos  25 years  Status Single  Father John Standish SKYNER
KENNEDY Susan Isabel  19 years  Status Single  Father George McEwin KENNEDY
5 Jul 1913
At the Central Methodist Mission, Port Pirie  Cla S 256/41

Births Jun 1888 [transcribed from the image not index]
SKYNER William Amos McI Toxteth Park 8b/208

Baptism - transcribed from the image.
SKYNER William Amos Mcintosh
7 Oct 1889 St John the Baptist, Toxteth Park
Parents' names  Eleanor Jessie SKYNER.
Abode  77 Morton Street           
Quality, Trade or Profession:   Single woman.

1891 Census RG12/2928/17/27   William is described as John S's son, however his mother Eleanor is living with the family.
Living at 77 Morton Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire
SKYNER John S  Head Married 45 years   Gas fitter  Born Liverpool Lancs
SKYNER Louisa Wife Married 43 years  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNER Eleanor Dau  Single  21 years  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNERJohn  Son  Single  18 years  Pawn broker  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNERHenry  Son  Single  17 years  Iron moulder  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNEREdith  Dau  11 years  Scholar  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNER Ella  Dau  9 years  Scholar  Born Liverpool, Lancs
SKYNER William A M Son  3 years   Born Liverpool, Lancs

William's mother's death
Deaths Mar 1909 
SKYNER    Eleanor Jessie  39 years    West Derby    8b/269

Your grandfather Frederick's birth was after 4 Aug 1915 as there is no result for his registration.
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

Birth
SKYNER Arthur
8  May 1917
Father William Amos SKYNER  Mother Susan Isabel KENNEDY
At Portland  PtA 998/41

2nd Marriage

SKINNER William 30 years  Status Widower  Father John Stendish [sic] SKINNER
GORMLEY Lucy Florence 25 years  Status Single  Father Dennis Edward GORMLEY
13 Jun 1918
At the Methodist Manse, North Adelaide  Ade 275/721

SKINNER Gladys Elaine
21 Jan 1919
Father William SKINNER  Mother Lucy Florence GORMLEY
At Medindie   Ade 31A/322

SKINNER Edward John
23 Sep 1923
Father William Amos SKINNER   Mother Lucy Florence GORMLEY
At Largs Bay   PtA 122A/491

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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 August 15 11:49 BST (UK) »
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KENNEDY—EDIS. —On the 23rd April, at Port Wakefield, by the Rev. J. Watts, George Robert, fourth son of Robert Kennedy, of Port Wakefield, to Susan, second daughter of James Edis, also of Port Wakefield.
Ros

From the Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885 - not 100% accurate and there are omissions and errors, however an excellent resource for South Australian research. All the data needs checking.

KENNEDY Robert
Born 1831 KKD SCT
Died 2 May 1914  Buried Pt Wakefield SA
Arrived 1857 on the MONSOON
Occupation Famer, Labourer
Lived Unley, Pt Wakefield   Religion Presbyterian
Married 1/2 Isabella nee HART born c1831 and died 22 May 1895
Children William c1857-1920, Robert 1858-1935.
Married 2/2 Ann *  Born c1841  Died 31 Oct 1902.

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/monsoon1857.shtml

I cannot see a marriage for Robert, of the right age and status widower to an Ann * before 1902 when she evidently died.  There appears to be two Robert KENNEDY's at Port Wakefield and one with wife Ann.

More births to the first marriage

KENNEDY James Douglas
9 Oct 1860
Father Robert KENNEDY  Mother Isabella HART
At Houghton   Hig 21/210

KENNEDY George
29 Oct 1862
Father Robert KENNEDY  Mother Isabella HART
At Gawler Plains  PtG 28/284


KENNEDY John Thomas
16 Apr 1865
Father Robert KENNEDY  Mother Isabella HART
At Peachy Belt   PtG 35/100

KENNEDY Douglas
14 Feb 1871
Father Robert KENNEDY  Mother Isabella HART
At Virginia   PtG 91/445

Deaths
KENNEDY Isabella  65 years Status Married  Relative Robert KENNEDY [Husband]
22 May 1895
Residence Port Wakefield  Death Place Port Wakefield  Gil 227/46

KENNEDY Robert  84 years  Status Married  Relative not recorded
1 May 1914 
Residence Port Wakefield  Death Place Port Wakefield   Gil 383/336

I think there is an error with his status as married.  No mention of a wife.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article125056441
The Daily Herald  7 May 1914
Our Port Wakefield correspondent writes:-Mr. Robert Kennedy, a colonist of 57 years, died suddenly on Friday last from heart failure. He had his breakfast as usual, and a few minutes after was found dead. He had never previously had an illness. He left Scotland 57 years ago in the ship Monsoon, and on arrival in South Australia went straight to Glen Ewin to work for Mr. Robert McEwin, who was a relative of the deceased. The last 40 years of his life were spent in the Port Wakefield district contracting, roadmaking, and in various other work. At one time he was a member of the Port Wakefield Corporation. His sister (Mrs. Hancock), who was two years older than Mr. Kennedy, and who had spent a large portion of her life in Port Wakefield, died just 12 months ago- There are four sons and one daughter living -Mr. W. Kennedy, of Port Wakefield; Mr. R Kennedy, of Halbury; Mr. G. Kennedy, of Port Pirie; Mr. D. Kennedy, of Port Wakefield; and Mrs. W. R. Sard, of Port Pirie.

You may find this interesting
http://glenewinestate.com.au/home/about-us/our-history/

Cando



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Re: Susan Isabel Skyner (Kennedy)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 August 15 05:48 BST (UK) »
http://www.pirie.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=423#.VcGTcbW2Hng

Buried at Port Pirie Cemetery, Common Protestant 1, Lot#154 Grave#4
KENNEDY  George McEwin  64 years  Date of burial 12 Apr 1927
Comments CP ,LOT 154 GRAVE:4

Buried in the next grave...... Grave#3
KENNEDY Susan  63 years Date of burial 13 Feb 1927

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