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Occupation Query
« on: Wednesday 05 August 15 21:40 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me what a Roller Turner did please? This was my gfather's occupation on the 1901 census in Bolton and there was the word 'fitter' after it but I think the enumerator (or whoever categorised the occupations) wrote that on afterwards.
Many thanks.
Jones, Evans, Kelly, Bromilow, Isherwood, Ivill, Atherton

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 August 15 21:54 BST (UK) »
In the "Dictionary of Occupational Terms" there are roller turner copper, roller turner rubber, roller turner textile machinery, and roller turner wood. Can you give the census details so we can see the census page?

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 August 15 07:56 BST (UK) »
Have you found your grandfather in the 1891(if old enough to have a job) or 1911 census, to see what his occupations were then?
Also his occupation on his marriage certificate, and the certificates of any of his children just to see how he is described and whenever he stayed in the same occupation?

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 August 15 09:11 BST (UK) »
Fitter and Turner.
From the 1891 census Classified list of Occupations. Classes, Orders, and Sub-Orders.
Classification. V. Industrial Class; Order 10, Persons working and dealing in Machines and Implements;  Sub-order 1, Machines; Fitter and Turner (Engine and Machine)

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 August 15 09:16 BST (UK) »
He was still at school in the 1901 census (and his father was a tailor, so no help there) and was in America looking for work in 1911. As far as I remember roller turner was the occupation on his marriage certificate and the BC I've got for my mother is only the shortform .
He died when my mother was 13 so she never really knew what he did, and he was unemployed a lot (this was in the '30s) but she described him as 'a sort of blue collar engineer-type'.
Jones, Evans, Kelly, Bromilow, Isherwood, Ivill, Atherton

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 August 15 09:32 BST (UK) »
Probably a turner, using a lathe to turn rollers of some sort. Bolton had a large textile industry that the rollers could have been for but other industries also used rollers. Whether he worked for a firm making rollers for their own use or a engineering firm making different rollers for different clients.
He could have been a skilled turner / fitter, turner, in which case he would [ most likely ] have served an apprenticeship and you may be able to find apprentice records. Or he could have been a semi-skilled lathe operator turning batches  on a  turret or capstan lathe or similar.
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 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
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 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 August 15 09:34 BST (UK) »
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 August 15 10:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you stanmapstone and youngtug
Jones, Evans, Kelly, Bromilow, Isherwood, Ivill, Atherton

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Re: Occupation Query
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 August 15 20:53 BST (UK) »
I would expect him to be working for one of the textile machinery manufacturers. Rollers are used in other machinery, but only a mass-production maker of anything would have a full-time roller turner. In the case of Bolton, that would be textile machinery.
There is a related trade, "roller coverer" which involves taking the rollers and covering them with a tightly-fitting leather surface. The seam in the cover would be hidden in a slot cut into the metal surface of the steel roller.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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