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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 August 15 15:12 BST (UK) »
Sorry I got the marriage of Abraham White wrong(there are that many I am getting confused now!)
My Abraham married Mary Broster on the 24th March 1817 at Tarporley, Cheshire. Mary came from Woodchurch and her father was Daniel and I have located her line quite easily.
I hope that helps.
Thank you.

1841 census - Little Budworth (wonderful place, I lived there for 20+ years  ;D ;D)

So your Abraham White is not the landlord of the Fox and Barrel with Elizabeth and a number of children?  But he is the Abraham White, Ag Lab, with Mary and children Abraham, John and George.

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 August 15 15:16 BST (UK) »
Just to confirm, is this your Abraham?

Deaths December quarter  1841   Abraham White  Northwich    19   155

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06 August 15 15:19 BST (UK) »
There is a burial entry in Tarporley - 9 October 1841 of Abraham White of Little Budworth, aged 50.
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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 August 15 15:30 BST (UK) »
Yes I am related to the Abraham White who was the Labourer in 1841. The other Abraham who is the farmer is related to my Abraham, cousins I believe if that helps.


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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 August 15 16:10 BST (UK) »
There are other marriages at Tarporley -
31 August 1830 - George Hitchen, Wheelwright and Elizabeth White
19 January 1835 - Henry Walker, Labourer and Ann White
10 September 1834 - John Rutter, farmer of Little Budworth and Elizabeth White of Rushton by Licence.  Witness John White
22 February 1830 - James Rutter, Farmer of Little Budworth and Mary White.
13 November 1834 - Samuel Burston, ? of Wardle in the parish of Bunbury and Jane White by Licence (unfortunately I can't get the image of the Bond to appear and the transcription adds nothing).  Ann White is a witness.

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 06 August 15 17:30 BST (UK) »
These are the children:
 Mary White born 1783 of Utkinton
 Ann White 1786 of Utkinton
Elizabeth White 1788 of Utkinton
 Sarah White 1798 of Utkinton
 Frances White 1803 of Utkinton

so the most probable times for marriage would be from 1800-1830, approximately.

From 1830 the first born would be quite(very) old for a first marriage, and could be of a different female White.

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 06 August 15 17:39 BST (UK) »
This looks like Frances and William Billington in 1851
William Billington   47
Frances Billington   45  Middlewich
Sarah Hughes   59  servant
Ann Teatt   21
Charles Safman   21
HO107  Piece  2001     Folio  460    Page  5

so probably a different Frances?

Except that in 1861 she is being visited by an Elizabeth Broster, unmarried, 63, landed proprietress Liverpool.
Perhaps just coincidence of the surname. 
But do you know any more about her?

Added:
Sorry, forgot that BumbleB had said that she was from Utkinton on marriage info.
Also, in 1861, she claims a son John E or C Billington age 14, born Sandbach, not there in 1851.  Born before the marriage?

Possibly this birth:
Births September quarter 1846   John Charles Billington     Congleton    19   81

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 06 August 15 19:52 BST (UK) »
In 1871 and 1881 Frances claims to be born in Minshull Vernon, still with John in 1871, and visiting in 1881.

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Re: Missing Children of a Long Term Illegitimate Relationship- Tarporley, Cheshire
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 06 August 15 19:57 BST (UK) »
IN 1851, John Billington is with Betsey Broster, 44, his aunt, from Middlewich.
There is also a niece, Catherine Davies, 8, from Middlewich.