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Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« on: Thursday 13 August 15 15:47 BST (UK) »
I have a reference from a prisoner speaking in 1836 about spending time for a previous conviction in "the Penitentiary" in 1829 - I have found there was a Female Penitentiary in Falkner Street, Liverpool,  but that seems to be more of a charitable institution for "fallen women" and the attendees had to want to stay there to hopefully get themselves out of their situations.

My prisoner was convicted of a crime, stealing from the person, though it's probable she was also a prostitute.

So which prison would she be likely to have spent her sentence in?
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 August 15 15:56 BST (UK) »
Can you supply name + dates?

Will try the British Newspaper Archives.

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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 August 15 16:04 BST (UK) »
According to the Liverpool Mercury,  Walton Gaol which was opened in 1855 housed 407 female prisoners.

http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/boroughgaol.html
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 August 15 16:05 BST (UK) »
Can you supply name + dates?

Will try the British Newspaper Archives.

Jackie

Hi Jackie and thank you, I already have newspaper clippings for this person which TBH don't give much information.

She was tried at Liverpool Quarter Sessions and it's the Female Prison name I am looking for.  Could it be Kirkdale or were there others?  She's said to have spent three and a half years there.
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 August 15 16:06 BST (UK) »
According to the Liverpool Mercury,  Walton Gaol which was opened in 1855 housed 407 female prisoners.

http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/boroughgaol.html

So definitely not Walton then.
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 August 15 16:14 BST (UK) »
 Kirkdale Gaol is a possibility, opened in 1818 at the end of Sessions Rd. Kirkdale!
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 August 15 16:28 BST (UK) »
From newspaper reports there seems to have been only one place in Liverpool that was known as "the Penitentiary" and that was the charitable institution that you mention.

Lancaster Castle had a penitentiary for female convicts - might that be the one?
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 August 15 19:50 BST (UK) »
From newspaper reports there seems to have been only one place in Liverpool that was known as "the Penitentiary" and that was the charitable institution that you mention.

Lancaster Castle had a penitentiary for female convicts - might that be the one?

Thank you purlin and ShaunJ, after doing some digging I think Lancaster is the likely contender, and it's not a million miles away from where I live.  :D
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Re: Liverpool Prison for Females c 1829
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 August 15 19:56 BST (UK) »
Well - look at this site - I googled Female prisoners hanged 1800 - 1850 - my logic was that there will be a list of Penitentiarys in and around Liverpool  ...Chester / Broughton / and then I found this - so there WAS a female Penitentiary in Liverpool at the time

09/04/1836

Betty Rowland

46

Liverpool

Murder of her husband

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/fempublic.html

so - was it just called Liverpool Penetentiary ???
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a long read - but maybe something on here - Liverpool Mercury reports
http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/mercury1819.html
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