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London Inquest
« on: Saturday 15 August 15 00:23 BST (UK) »
My great great grandmother died 22 Jan 1900 cause of death was drowning, suicide.  She was found in the Grand Canal.  There was a inquest held 25 Jan 1900 in London.  Coroner Geo Danford Thomas was listed on death registration.  Her name was Catherine Floyd, age 52.  I am trying to get a copy of the inquest which I believe his held at the National Archives.  I live in Canada so I can not visit.  Is there any place else that might have a copy or some site that might have an on line access?  Any help would be appreciated. 

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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 August 15 00:36 BST (UK) »
there is a general information page here>

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/coroners-inquests/


the period in which you seek may fall within the 100 year bound of privacy etc, however, write a snail mail or email to the National Archives and see to what their opinion is regarding supplying a copy....

good luck

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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 August 15 10:30 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the link provided by fastfusion will not solve your problem.

However, the London Metropolitan Archives provides a comprehensive assessment of London's coroners records and what you most probably won't find.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fwv/

Being realistic, a surviving report in the local newspaper will most probably be all that remains. And very few local London newspapers have made their way onto the British Newspaper Archives site yet.

I will be at the Westminster Archives soon (poss w/c 24th Aug) and can check the Paddington & Marylebone papers on microfilm when I'm there.

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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 August 15 16:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dawn.  I really appreciate you looking.  I have also emailed the National Archives, just in case.  Maryann


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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 August 15 16:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It might be useful to contact the London Metropolitan Archives as they hold some files:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/0f9f40ca-07f8-40fe-b07f-7643ec90488c

https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/london-metropolitan-archives/visitor-information/Pages/enquiry-service.aspx


I found an Inquest file from 1902 at the LMA.


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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 August 15 16:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the hints.  I will try them all.  The National Archives emailed me back and suggested the British Newspaper Archive and London Metropolitan Archives as well.  Once again Thank you for all the helpful suggestions.  Maryann

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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 August 15 22:28 BST (UK) »
From the Paddington Times Friday January 26 1900

A Determined Suicide

Dr Danford Thomas yesterday, at noon, at
Paddington, held an inquest upon the body of
Catherine Floyd, aged 52, a widow, of 66 Cirencester
Street, which was found in the Grand Junction
Canal on Monday. Mrs Tomlin who lived in
the same house, said her mother had been queer in
her mind before she went away. Four months
ago she was medically attended for delusions.
She went away on Wednesday January 3. On
that day she tried to drown herself but had never
previously attempted to take her life. When she
returned after being taken out of the water she sat
for a little and then said “I am going down
stairs, I shan’t be a minute”. Deceased,
however ran out of the house and witness rushed
after her, but did not see her, and therefore gave
information to the Police. A young woman, Jane
Arnold, who lived near, went to see the last
witness, and met the deceased, who seemed very
strange in her manner. Afterwards she and
deceased went along the terrace, and witness held
on to her cloak as deceased seemed so queer.
When they reached the canal deceased slipped out
of her cloak and rushed into the water. Witness
pulled her out. She said she would go, and would
go before the night. The coroner reminded the witness
she should have at once communicated with
the police. Witness said deceased then seized a
lot of pins and tried to swallow them, and sub-
sequently attempted to strangle herself in the
passage. PC 84X Gatfield said a bargeman told
him he had seen a body. Witness dragged and
recovered it. He knew a woman had been missing.
The body had been in the water some time
and was a great deal decomposed. Dr Scott of
Westbourne Terrace, having said death was due to
drowning, the jury returned a verdict of “suicide
whilst of unsound mind.”

A shorter version of this appeared in the Marylebone Mercury Saturday January 27 1900 with the headline

Suicide of a Paddington Woman

A Plucky rescue by a Marylebone Girl

An inquest was held at the Edgware Road
Coroners Court on Thursday, on the body of
Catherine Floyd, widow of a Ticket Collector,
lately living at 56 Cirencester Street. Deceased
was found floating in the waters of the canal.
Evidence was given by a married daughter
showing the deceased had been the victim of
delusions, and imagined that she was being
followed about by strange people. On the 3rd
Inst. she threw herself into the canal but was
rescued by a young woman named Jane
Harwood of 2 Homer Row Marylebone. She
returned home, but soon afterwards ran out of
the house and was never seen alive again. PC
84X deposed to dragging the canal on Monday
last. He found the body and got it to the bank.
It had been in the water for a considerable time
and was much decomposed. Dr Scott of
Westbourne Terrace, who examined the body,
pronounced death was due to drowning, and a
verdict of “suicide while of unsound mind”
was returned by the Jury.

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Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: London Inquest
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 August 15 00:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you so very much.  She surely was determined to do herself in.  The poor thing.  I really feel for her and also my Great Grandma Kate.  I can't imagine dealing with my mother in that state.  Thanks again for all your help.  You went above and beyond.  With much appreciation.  Maryann