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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 August 15 18:31 BST (UK) »
Leah Cartwright was the second wife of Solomon they married in 1889 and had daughter Leah in 1890.
His first wife and mother of John James was Ann Tranter whom he married in 1875.

I have come to the conclusion there are two Joseph Wootton/Wooton's around at the same time one was basically from Wolverhampton, and one from Willenhall (which is the one I am after I believe) its just now trying to sort them out one born 1873, and one born 1874 according to census.

Thanks for your input much appreciated

Yvonne

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 August 15 08:25 BST (UK) »
Leah also had a son George Edward baptised 7.9.1885 at St Stephens Willenhall (see Wolverhampton Archives site http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes/index.html?sid=e53f323bd5c646a2a6728bec9603743d) looks like he died September quarter of the same year but I can't see a burial

I cant find baptisms for any of Edward and Martha's children

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 05 January 16 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Thought I would update you on this quest.

Well I have only this last week sent for the birth certificate of Joseph, and at first thought it might be the wrong one, then on closer inspection realised that it is the correct one.

Born: 18 August 1873, Newhall St, Willenhall   Name:JOSEPH Father: William Wootton Mother: Martha Wootton formerly TAYLOR  Fathers Occ: Locksmith Reg by Martha Wootton, Newhall St, Willenhall.

Martha's Husband Edward died in 1863, and I believe William Wootton was also a widower, I
cannot find a marriage between the two so presume there wasn't one. Martha died in 1879 when Joseph was 6, so after his father died he was passed around relatives. He ended up on the 1901 census with William J Cartwright who I now believe was his half brother. He married my Gt grandmother in the name of Joseph Cartwright, as I presume he took his mothers married name.

Am really hoping this is correct and not just fitting because I want it to.

Thanks for reading and helping

Yvonne

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 05 January 16 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for letting us know the result.   :)

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 January 16 19:54 GMT (UK) »


Born: 18 August 1873, Newhall St, Willenhall   
JOSEPH
Father: William Wootton
Mother: Martha Wootton formerly TAYLOR
Fathers Occ: Locksmith Reg by Martha Wootton, Newhall St, Willenhall.

Martha's Husband Edward died in 1863, and I believe William Wootton was also a widower, I
cannot find a marriage between the two so presume there wasn't one.

Martha died in 1879 when Joseph was 6, so after his father died he was passed around relatives.


Could this be Joseph's father

1828 Ch. William Wootten  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXVK-7H5

1841c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQT7-G32

1851c HO107; Piece: 2020; Folio: 493; Page: 38
William Wooton 23 Willenhall occ locksmith son of Caleb & Adah
1851c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVT-XVXF

1851 marriage WW to Sarah SMITH https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXP2-9HR

1861 RG 9; Piece: 2001; Folio: 70; Page: 26
William Wootton 33 Willenhall occ locksmith wife Sarah

1871c RG10; Piece: 2946; Folio: 25; Page: 43;
William Wootton widowed 42 Willenhall
1871c  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5RY-5TT

1881 RG11; Piece: 2808; Folio: 65; Page: 5
William Wooton 51 boarders
Joseph WOOTON 7 Willenhall

1891c RG12; Piece: 2239; Folio: 44; Page: 19
Joseph WOOTTON 18 Willenhall Staffs occ Groom & Porter
boarding with
Henry (1841) & Sarah TAYLOR address 11 Newhall Street Willenhall

The above Henry & Sarah TAYLOR appear to be the same persons who
are living at No 11 Stafford Street next door to
James & Caroline TAYLOR (No. 12)
along with their boarders
Martha CARTWRIGHT, Anna, William & Leah
on 1871c  RG10; Piece: 2943; Folio: 54; Page: 2

Perhaps Martha Cartwright nee Taylor is the sister of Henry from 1891/1871census

this might be them together on 1851 census
Martha & Henry TAYLOR Niece & Nephew to John & Lucy JOBBER
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVT-X4G9

Martha Taylor ch. 1836 dau of James & Caroline
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NB1H-T6X

1835 marriage James Taylor to Caroline Jobber
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKCK-5VW










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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 05 January 16 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi yes that is what I have researched Martha Taylor married Edward Cartwright in 1853 he died in 1863 so Martha was a widow The jobber's were her grandparents. William Wootton was married to Sarah but there were no children from the marriage. Sarah died leaving William a widower. Henry Taylor is Martha's brother.Martha and William must have got together sometime and had Joseph. On Joseph's birth cert Martha states her name as Wootton formerly Taylor, all the pieces fit together that they were all related.
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Yvonne

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 June 17 15:29 BST (UK) »
Hi, I know it may be a bit of a late reply, but,this is the first time I`ve seen the post.  I am William Edward Thomason b1946, Solomon Thomason is my great grandfather,his Son John James Is my Grandfather,his Son Sidney John is my dad. I have photo`s of all,I do hope you are still on "Roots".
                          Bill Thomason.

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Re: Joseph Cartwright b1873 Willenhall?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 29 June 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
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Hi, I know it may be a bit of a late reply, but,this is the first time I`ve seen the post.  I am William Edward Thomason b1946, Solomon Thomason is my great grandfather,his Son John James Is my Grandfather,his Son Sidney John is my dad. I have photo`s of all,I do hope you are still on "Roots".
                          Bill Thomason.