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Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« on: Thursday 27 August 15 18:33 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth and John KEEPING were the eldest dau and son of Charles KEEPING of Boldre, Hants.  The 1881 census gives Elizabeth, 18, and John, 16, as being born in Jersey.  What I would like to know, if possible, is who their mother was.

Can anyone help confirm who she was please?

Charles was born abt 1833 in Hampshire either Beaulieu or Boldre.

There's a possible marriage for him in Lymington in 1852 to a Mary Jane NEW that may correspond to the Charles and Mary in the 1861 St Helier, Jersey census.  Elizabeth and John are given as being born in St Helier in the 1871.

There's another in Poole in 1863 which also gives a Anne Maria KEEPING.  Anne is also given as Anne Maria PEARCEY or PEARCY, which suggests she may be the mother

In 1871 he's in Boldre, Hants, a married labourer with Elizabeth and John but no sign of his wife.

He married Ann WOODFORD (b 1845) in Boldre in 1872. I don't have any further details of the marriage, just the 7 children from it.  Charles last appears with his family in 1891, age 58, although Ann gives herself as married in both the 1901 and 1911 censuses.


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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 August 15 18:49 BST (UK) »
Hello,

1861 has a Charles b 1833 England with a wife Mary also England living in St Helier, Jersey.
There is also a Charles b 1831, Boldre with wife Emma living in Milton with a 9 yr old daughter, Mary.

Sorry, I see you have this!
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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 August 15 19:47 BST (UK) »
1871 census has Charles as widower RG10/1173 folio 130 pg 22.

1901 census Brockenhurst, RG13/1035 folio 87 pg 13
Christopher Place head mar 28 postman & gardener b. Brockenhurst
Elizabeth wife 38 b. Jersey
Charles Keeping mar lodger 67 fisherman b. Boldre
Walter Henton lodger 25 painter & paper hanger b. Christchurch
both Christopher & Charles are noted as deaf

marriage ref
Christopher Warland Place sep qtr 1899 Lymington with Elizabeth Ester Keeping the only other person on the page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 August 15 19:55 BST (UK) »
From www.jerseyheritage.org

St Helier baptisms

Elizabeth Esther Keeping, born 25/9/1862, baptized 5/10/1862. Father Charles Keeping - Labourer, Mother Mary Phillips. Godparents Father and Esther Finn

John Charles Keeping, born 18/9/1864, baptized 2/10/1864, same parents (although Mary is listed as Nancy) Godparents John Finn and Esther Finn.


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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 August 15 20:07 BST (UK) »
from the free index for the 1911 census, Charles is still in Brockenhurst

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQZ-C25

possibly still with daughter Elizabeth?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 August 15 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hello,

1861 has a Charles b 1833 England with a wife Mary also England living in St Helier, Jersey.
There is also a Charles b 1831, Boldre with wife Emma living in Milton with a 9 yr old daughter, Mary.

Sorry, I see you have this!

SOK :)

It means I wasn't dreaming the find :)

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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 August 15 16:50 BST (UK) »
1871 census has Charles as widower RG10/1173 folio 130 pg 22.

1901 census Brockenhurst, RG13/1035 folio 87 pg 13
Christopher Place head mar 28 postman & gardener b. Brockenhurst
Elizabeth wife 38 b. Jersey
Charles Keeping mar lodger 67 fisherman b. Boldre
Walter Henton lodger 25 painter & paper hanger b. Christchurch
both Christopher & Charles are noted as deaf

marriage ref
Christopher Warland Place sep qtr 1899 Lymington with Elizabeth Ester Keeping the only other person on the page

Thank you very much.  That's good, very helpful :)

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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 August 15 16:53 BST (UK) »
From www.jerseyheritage.org

St Helier baptisms

Elizabeth Esther Keeping, born 25/9/1862, baptized 5/10/1862. Father Charles Keeping - Labourer, Mother Mary Phillips. Godparents Father and Esther Finn

John Charles Keeping, born 18/9/1864, baptized 2/10/1864, same parents (although Mary is listed as Nancy) Godparents John Finn and Esther Finn.

Thank you very much, also for the link :)  Very useful

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Re: Elizabeth (b abt 1863) and John KEEPING (b abt 1865) Jersey
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 August 15 16:55 BST (UK) »
from the free index for the 1911 census, Charles is still in Brockenhurst

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQZ-C25

possibly still with daughter Elizabeth?

Thank you :)  I wonder if Charles and Ann have parted company or if he's simply visiting his dau for some reason