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2 places for marriage?
« on: Friday 28 August 15 18:17 BST (UK) »
I have Henery Stuart marrying Emm Platton at St Peter Mancroft in Norwich, Norfolk, 26 October 1735. (According to online parish record)
But Familysearch shows Emm Platton marrying Henery Stuart - same date - 'event place Horstead, Norfolk'.

Now I appreciate that banns would have been read in the home parishes but I've looked through the online parish register for Horstead 1735 marriages & I can't find any mention of this marriage or banns.

What am I missing? Where did FS get that place name from? Looking on Freereg the marriage is in Norwich at St Peter Mancroft.

I haven't been able to get back from this couple so the mention of Horstead could be a massive clue!

Hoping it's something very obvious you can point me towards!

Pat
King, Richardson, Hathaway, Sweeney, Young - Chelsea, London
Richardson - Rayne Essex
Steward, Hindry, Hewitt - Norfolk, North Walsham area

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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:28 BST (UK) »
If it was down to me, I'd always go with the on-line parish records  :)  In my personal experience, FS is notorious for it's mistranscriptions  :-X :-X

FreeREG -
St Peter, Mancroft
Henery Stuart, single and Emm Platton, single - 26 October 1735 - per "bands"

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you, BumbleB,  having seen it in the online record for Norwich but NOT Horstead, reluctantly I have to agree.

Oh dear, I was hoping I'd made a bit of progress with dear old Emm...

But thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Pat

King, Richardson, Hathaway, Sweeney, Young - Chelsea, London
Richardson - Rayne Essex
Steward, Hindry, Hewitt - Norfolk, North Walsham area

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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:38 BST (UK) »
Sorry to have dashed your hopes  :'(
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY


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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

How far back have you got with this couple?  Could either of them have come from Horstead?

The familysearch record leads to this page:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNW9-ZJ3

which has a reference to film no 1702622 on the right hand side.  This film includes lots of separate parish records from Norfolk, including transcripts from Horstead:

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/588156?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Possibly there's a note in the Horstead parish records about the marriage in Mancroft.  The film is in the London LDS centre at the moment.

KR
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Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:41 BST (UK) »
I had a similar 'problem' with a Suffolk marriage a while ago and FS showed them being married in Bury St Edmunds. Oddly they were both from Cambridgeshire and were actually married in Bedfordshire.

I didn't understand this one either, so apologies not a lot of help  :)

Edward
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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 August 15 18:47 BST (UK) »
Pat, when you say you've looked through the online parish register, do you mean you've looked at the images?  Could it be on a scrappy piece of paper at the beginning or end of a book or year?

KR
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Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 August 15 19:24 BST (UK) »
I don't now if it is the reason in this instance.

I discovered years ago, that when the PR's were filmed by the LDS, depending on the size of the parish,  the films were not always restricted to one parish. If there was film left after one parish was done, they would use up the rest of the film on another parish.  This fact was some times missed during the indexing, and the records at the end of the film would be indexed as part of the first parish, this caused events to appear to occur in two different places.

If you view the image, as BumbleB said, always go with the on-line parish records

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: 2 places for marriage?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 August 15 20:02 BST (UK) »
Ah.
Every time I ask a question on here it just shows what a numpty novice I am.  ::) :-[

Gaie - I never realised the transcripts were listed like that. Wow - lots of fascinating reading there. I believe I found the marriage in the Norfolk ATs. There were very few details (info is all on my laptop which I haven't got at the moment). THANK YOU for giving me a lead!

Edward - glad I'm not the only one scratching my head!

Jebber - good point to bear in mind, thank you.

I haven't got further back than their marriage although they settled in Trunch where all their children's baptisms are well documented and from there I've tracked subsequent generations.

Thank you all VERY much, I feel I have a direction to go in now.

Pat
King, Richardson, Hathaway, Sweeney, Young - Chelsea, London
Richardson - Rayne Essex
Steward, Hindry, Hewitt - Norfolk, North Walsham area