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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 August 15 08:34 BST (UK) »
Of course there is always the possibility that he irked his passage, hence difficulty finding him in any ship registers.
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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 August 15 08:54 BST (UK) »
Well, something is amiss.   

1.  No convicts transported to South Australia.  SA was established as a free Colony/Province
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australia_Act_1834

2.  http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31750489  unclaimed letters  30 March 1839

3.  Convict ships were not usually HMS vessels.   http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/ships.htm

Trove will give you names of HMS vessels if you use H.M.S. and limit the years to be searched to 1820-1840  :)  http://trove.nla.gov.au/  Then you can get to Log of Logs and look for journals, diaries etc. 


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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 August 15 08:56 BST (UK) »
I have found a Gorton CF departing England on the Badarster in from memory '38

I cannot find any ship of that name in any of my off line resources.  Sorry.

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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:05 BST (UK) »
Well, something is amiss.   

1.  No convicts transported to South Australia.  SA was established as a free Colony/Province
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australia_Act_1834

2.  http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31750489  unclaimed letters  30 March 1839

3.  Convict ships were not usually HMS vessels.   http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/ships.htm

Trove will give you names of HMS vessels if you use H.M.S. and limit the years to be searched to 1820-1840  :)  http://trove.nla.gov.au/  Then you can get to Log of Logs and look for journals, diaries etc. 


Cheers,  JM

Sorry I mustn't be making it clear.

The story is that he came to Australia with the Royal Navy (possibly a convict transporter) not necessarily SA. Liked what he saw, went back to England, collected family (big doubts here in my mind unless it means Henry Cotton) and the moved to Australia.

The letter you reference was just a few months after the Badarster arrived in Australia and when it left England it had a Goron CF as a passenger.

What I am really, at the moment, trying to get to the bottom of is had he Ben to Australia before he moved here.

Really little to do with the family tree, but if he did I then need to do more research into this question of bringing family out with him.

The nearest relative I can find arriving at about the same time as Charles is, as I said Henry Bayes Cotton, who was the nephew of Charles' brother in law, he arrived in Australia 38-39 (some references say late 38 other early 39) so the timing fits.
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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:11 BST (UK) »
I have found a Gorton CF departing England on the Badarster in from memory '38

I cannot find any ship of that name in any of my off line resources.  Sorry.

Cheers,  JM

Because the typist can't tÿpe it was the Bardaster.
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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:16 BST (UK) »
He was a passenger on the Bardaster. Arrived Adelaide in January 1839.

See this inquest report where evidence is given about him and by him http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31750400?searchTerm=%22%20bardaster%22%20gordon&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:22 BST (UK) »
The Bardaster had served as a convict transport in prior years.
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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:23 BST (UK) »
He was a passenger on the Bardaster. Arrived Adelaide in January 1839.

See this inquest report where evidence is given about him and by him http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31750400?searchTerm=%22%20bardaster%22%20gordon&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc
Thank you for that one. It seems pretty solid it was him, but no Buchanans that I know of in our tree.

So the bought family out may (as I have long suspected) be wrong.
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Re: Navy records 1820-1840
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 August 15 09:25 BST (UK) »
The Bardaster had served as a convict transport in prior years.
Yep but no records of Charles having served on her. Of course as a Navy man he may have worked his passage with someone he knew.
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