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Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« on: Thursday 03 September 15 08:43 BST (UK) »
Peter Hampson c1837 is showing up in the 1861 census. He states Hesketh (Lancashire) as his birth place. Could someone fill me in on the household information and if he can be sited in any other records please.

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 September 15 11:58 BST (UK) »
Hi KiwiHugh

Vessel "Mary", RG9 - Piece4416 - Folio 96
Douglas, Isle of Man
Master: Rob't LEADBEATER 53, married, b North Mails, Lancashire
Able Seaman: John LEADBEATER, 19, unmarried, b North Mails, Lancashire
Able Seaman: Peter HAMPSON 24, unmarried, b Hesketh, Lamcashire
Able Seaman: Tho's SOUTHWARD 24, unmarried, b North Mails, Lancashire
Enumerated as 'North Mails" - it is correctly: 'North Meols'

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 September 15 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly. Dang boat people. Generally a pain to track ::)

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 September 15 12:35 BST (UK) »
 ;D  ;D

Not sure if you have this - I'd say, probably him:

1841:   Marsh Houses, Township of Little Hoole, Preston, Lancashire
HO107 - piece 526 - book 6 - folio 6 - Pg7
John HAMPSON 40, Farmer
Margaret ", 35
James ", 14
Ann ", 12
William ", 8
John ", 5
Peter ", 3
Thomas ", 10mths
Hugh LATHAM 35, Ag Lab
ALL Born Lancashire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Hoole/

1851:  Hornby St 8 AA, Liverpool St Martin, Lancashire
HO107 -piece 2177 - folio 41 - Pg75
Head: John HAMPSON 56, Labr in a Beer House, b Anderton, Lancashire
Margaret ", 47 , b Hesketh, Lancashire
James ", 25, unm, Journeyman Baker, b Hoole, Lancashire
Ann ", 22, b Hoole, Lancashire
William ", 18, Ap Cooper, b Hesketh, Lancashire
John ", 15, Ap Cooper, b Hoole, Lancashireb
Peter ", 13, Scholar, b Hoole, Lancashire
Thomas ", 10, Scholar, b Hoole, Lancashire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/HeskethwithBecconsall/

Peter HAMPSON, Chr 20 Dec 1837, Hoole
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2TM-3XV

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 September 15 02:00 BST (UK) »
I am descended from William the Cooper but as his son William Spencer H. was the only one of twelve to survive to adulthood am now looking at the next generation back. William and his wife Margaret nee Spencer were very religous but not in a main stream way and hence they did not marry or baptise their children in a regular church. Glad you also agree that Peter from Hesketh is also the Peter very much from Little Hoole. Mind you going by Google maps you could just about throw a stone from one place to the other. But where is Peter after 1861?  :-\ William died in 1877, son William came out to NZ in 1879 and Mum Margaret followed in 1880. She crusaded here and Australia for 4 years drawing huge crowds, then scandel  :o. Went off to California with a married man and out lived son William by 5 years. But she was nice enough to add his name to her husbands tombstone back in Toxteth Park.

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 September 15 10:12 BST (UK) »
Gosh, what a web!  Not sure which is the most shocking  :o William the Cooper's son being only one of his 12 children to grow up to adulthood or his crusading mother upping sticks with a married man!

In  1837 on FreeBMD (Sep Qtr to Dec Qtr) there is just one Peter HAMPSON Birth Registration, in the Dec Qtr. In Preston.  None  in Preston in the next couple of years

As Hoole falls into the Preston District and as your Peter was christened in December 1837 in Hoole - that Birth Registration is perhaps likely to be his?

Because  I'd lay bets that  this is him :

1871 Census: Vessel "Medina" , enumerated in Ballantrae District, Ayrshire, Scotland
Master: Peter HAMPSON 34, Master, b Preston, Lancashire
Mate: William SMALLWOOD 33, Whitehaven, Cumberland
Fisherman: Isaac DREWERY 35, b Bradford, Yorkshire
Fisherman: Thomas QUAIL 51, b Whitehaven, Cumberland

1871 Census: 1 Hodgson Court, Whitehaven, Cumberland
RG10- Piece 5253 - Folio 70 -Pg37
Head: Elizabeth KYLE 36, mar, b Bradford, Yorkshire
Dau: Jane KYLE 17, unm, b Whitehaven
Dau: Mary Ann KYLE 14, b Whitehaven
Son: John KYLE 5, b Whitehaven

1871 Marriage:  Sep Qtr 1871, Whitehaven
Peter HAMPSON
Elizabeth KYLE

1881 Census: 3 Building, Littledale Lane, Whitehaven, Cumberland
RG11 - Piece 5185 - Folio 68 -Pg34
Head: Peter HAMPSON 46, Fisherman, b Preston, Lancashire
Wife: Elizabeth HAMPSON 47, Fisherman's Wife, b Keithley, Yorkshire
Dau: Margaret HAMPSON 18, unm, no occupation, b Whitehaven
Son: John HAMPSON 15, no occupation, b Whitehaven
Servant: Mary Ann KYIELS 23, unm, Domestic Servant, b Whitehaven
Lodger: William KYIELS 9, Scholar, b Whitehaven
William may not son be a son, but another relative?

1891 Census: 1 Passage, Littledale Lane, Whitehaven, Cumberland
RG12 - Piece 4313 - Folio  49 - Pg22
Head: Peter THOMPSON 54, Fisherman, b Preston, Lancashire
Wife: Elizabeth THOMPSON, 55, b Yorkshire
Step-Dau: Mary A KYLES 34, single, b Whitehaven
Grandson: Peter CURWEN 13, b Whitehaven
Grandson: Isaac CURWEN 11. b Whitehaven
Note: Enumurated as THOMPSON (outside chance the TH is actually an H, but the P is there)
The Grandchildren, issue of Elizabeth's dau Jane - who looks to be living next door with husband 2?

Next door :
2 Passage, Littledale Lane, Whitehaven, Cumberland
Head: Charles SLOAN 36, Lamp Trimmer, b Hexham Northumberland
Wife: Jane SLOAN 36, b Whitehaven
StepSon: John CURWEN 17, Screener?, b Whitehaven
StepSon: Joseph CURWEN 15, Errand Boy, b Whitehaven
StepSon: Jonathan CURWEN 9, b Whitehaven
StepDau: Jane CURWEN 7, b Whitehaven
Son: Edward SLOAN 10 months, b Whitehaven

1901 Census: In 3 Rooms at 1 Hodgson Court, Whitehaven, Cumberland
RG13 - Piece 4891 -Folio 55 - Pg18
Head: Peter HAMPSON 62, widower, Fisherman, b Preston, Lancashire
Step-Dau: Mary Ann KYLES 39, Single, Fish Dealer, b Whitehaven

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AMBLY
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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 September 15 10:48 BST (UK) »
Published in the Carlisle Patriot - Friday 10 December 1897
An Article titled: REMARKABLE RECORD IN LIFE SAVING WHITEHAVEN

It reports that on Tuesday, 7th December 1897, John HAMPSON of Whitehaven was presented with an "illuminated address from the Royal Humane Society" by the Chairman of the Whitehaven Harbour Commissioners, in honour of his (John) having saved a little girl from drowning in the Harbour. 

The article goes on to say that John had been previously honoured in a similar way, for having saved three lives at San Francisco. He had also saved or tried to save in the past 15 years (so since about 1882) a further 25 lives at Whitehaven.

The article then adds that John's father, well-known fisherman Peter HAMPSON  had himself saved 20 lives - and that he (the Chairman) deems them to be a 'life-saving family'.

The Chairman apparently regretted that the Royal Humane Society  could not be persuaded to bestow a better recognition than the address, for John's courageous acts, but he (the Chairman) was glad he (John) had received a present from other sources.

Looks like John did eventually get that more tangible honour:
Published in the Lancashire Evening Post - Friday 12 December 1902
An article titled: GALLANT WHITEHAVEN MAN SAVED FORTY-NINE LIVES

It reports:  The Mayor of Whitehaven, presented on behalf of the Board of Trade, a Bronze Medal to John HAMPSON for gallantry & saving lives at sea. It reports that John is age 36  (so born abt 1866) and is a member of the Naval Reserve. It states John  has received two previous certificates of merit from the Royal Humane Society.

Later:
Wednesday 07 February 1923 Taunton Courier, and Western Advertiser
Friday 02 February 1923 ,  Western Gazette ,  Somerset
Wednesday 31 January 1923 ,  Gloucestershire Echo ,  Gloucestershire


All report:
'John HAMPSON, a Miner, who won the name of "Whitehaven's Lifesaver" has died. He rescued over 50 persons from Drowning'.

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AMBLY
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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 September 15 11:04 BST (UK) »
You have made my evening. :D  I had never heard of Whitehaven Cumberland till only recently. Peter's younger brother Thomas (1840) married a Jane nee Wilson who is born in Whitehaven. Thomas is unemployed in 1881 and they and 3 children are living with her parents. That is the 3rd record that I have found/been shown where my Hampsons are recorded as Thompson.

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 September 15 11:24 BST (UK) »
Am wondering where 8 year old Margaret Hampson/Kyle is in 1871?