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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 September 15 11:46 BST (UK) »
Am wondering where 8 year old Margaret Hampson/Kyle is in 1871?

Ah, yes,  had a look &  - I think she is HAMPSON with some WILSONS??  ;D in Lancashire. The Census quality is quite bad - just having a go at working it out, will post details anon!

(On second thoughts, might not be her if she was a KYLE in 1871, but still will post)

Maybe not WILSONS either?

Can anyone else help make this Census out:

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 September 15 12:08 BST (UK) »
1871 Census: 25  ----field Street, Edge Hill, West Derby, Lancashire
RG10 - Piece 3842 - Folio  76 -Pg34
Head: Thomas -------- , age __, occ: -------- Labr., b Whitehaven Cumberland
Wife: Nancy? ---------, age 4?, b Hesketh, Lancashire
Dau: Jemima ---------, 13, Scholar, b -------------? -------------?
Dau: Ann Jane --------, 11?, Scholar, b Leyland? Lancashire
Neice: Margaret HAMPSON 6, Scholar, b Whitehaven, Cumberland
M in Law: -----------? HAMPSON 67, b Hesketh, Lancashire
Lodger? ------------? -----------? 24?, unm, occ: -----------?, b ----------, London

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 September 15 12:40 BST (UK) »
By heck. it looks like you have found sister Naney (Ann) baptised 1828 in Hesketh. Mum was Margaret nee Rimmer. Margarets and Johns marriage at OPC is under Thompson. Brother Thomas has a mother in law named Jemima Wilson
Oppps in  1861 Annie is living with Mum and brother Thomas and an 8 year old grandson James at 120 Portland Street

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 September 15 12:48 BST (UK) »
Woo   ;D  ;D so they are WILSONS?  I've been looking sideways and upsidedownways....

If so, that would make the M-In-Law there, Margaret HAMPSON, Peter's mother? She was 47 in 1851 so that would fit being 67 in 1871?

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 September 15 12:55 BST (UK) »
And to boot Annie is listed as unmarried in 1861. Unless Jemima and Anne/Jane are from an earlier marriage by Mr Wilson
Yes I was looking at that marriage the other day as a highly likely. 15 Dec 1867 at St Jude West Derby. right fathers with right jobs. Thomas was a railway officer and widower

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 September 15 13:19 BST (UK) »
Mr WILSON's first wife may have been named Ann too? Looks like the two girls here?

1861: 64 Eldon Place, Liverpool
RG 9 - Piece 2652 -Folio 122 - Pg42
Head: John WILSON 54, Lab, b Whitehaven, Cumberland
Wife: Jemima WILSON 54, b Whitehaven, Cumberland
Son: Thomas WILSON 31, mar, Rwy Pointsman, b Whitehaven, Cumberland
Dau-in-Law: Ann WILSON 30, mar, b Liverpool

Dau: Jane WILSON 25, unm,  Dressmaker, b Parton? Cumberland
Son: Joseph WILSON 21, unm, Lab, b Liverpool, Lancs
Grandson: John Hy WILSON 11, Scholar, b West Derby, Lancs
Granddau: Jemima WILSON 3, b West Derby, Lancs
Granddau: Anne J WILSON 18 mths, b Liverpool, Lancs

Visitor: Catherine KIRWAN 24, unm, Machine Sewer, b Ireland
Visitor: Elizabeth WELSH 9, Scholar, b Cardiff, Wales
Lodger: Isaac BOWES 14, Ap Butcher, b Preston, Lancs

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #15 on: Friday 04 September 15 13:39 BST (UK) »
Crikey I have to get up in 5 hours  ;D Seeing as you are so good at this, can you see (probably) Nanney's boy James Hampson who in 1861 was 8 and born in Liverpool . But having said that, the obvious baptism at OPC would have have him being closer to 10.

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 September 15 13:49 BST (UK) »
Luckily I can Sleep in a bit  tomorrow (later this morning!)   - once Suzanne Paul comes on the tele though,  I'll be off to bed  ;D  :P

Will have a look and see if  I can see James.

So just to get my head in order:   that 1861 Census  of WILSONs  just above there -  the daughter  Jane WILSON  the one who married Thomas HAMPSON, Peter's  younger brother?  So two HAMPSON siblings Ann (Nanney) & Thomas married two WILSON Siblings, Thomas & Jane?

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Re: Peter Hampson 1861 and anything else please
« Reply #17 on: Friday 04 September 15 14:06 BST (UK) »
......James Hampson ...... the obvious baptism at OPC would have have him being closer to 10.

Was that baptism in the Lanc OPC, St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire on 26 Feb 1851 of James HAMPSON, son,  bp of Ann HAMPSON Spinster, Abode Abram?

That babe died, Burial on 9 Apr 1851 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
James Hampson, age 6 weeks, Abode Abram.

Could James  not be Annie's, but rather belong to one of her brothers?

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