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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 July 05 22:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

If you cant get the Times Articles I can email them to you - i think, but they are so informative and so many I think, if poss, yu should read them yourself

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 09:06 BST (UK) »
Ken, Rose,

The people at Blackley Crem are fantastic.  You'll be able to go in their index room and look up the grave receipts for yourself. (who's buried, who paid, how much, how deep etc).

And if you're planning a trip to M/cr General Cemetery, take a Rottweiler and a stab jacket  ;D

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 12:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

I dont need a Rottweiler or stab jacket, I have lived in Harpurhey for 22 years so I know which trees to hide behind  ;D

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 13:37 BST (UK) »
1881
13 Naylor Street, Manchester, Lancashire
RG11/3981  f52 p11
RD    Manchester 
SubRD   Ancoats 
ED 23 


Robt. Allmark 1843  Alderly, Cheshire Head  Mechanic
Elizabeth E. Allmark 1850  Manr, Lancashire Wife 
Robt. Henry Allmark 1876  Manr, Lancashire Son 
Charles Allmark 1878  Manr, Lancashire Son 
Mary Allmark 1879  Manr, Lancashire Daughter 
Mary Brett 1814  Macclesfield, Cheshire Mother Annuitant 

and the marriage of Elizabeth Ellen Brett (1850, Charles Bretts Daughter)
to Robert Allmark


Marriages Mar 1875
 
ALLMARK  Robert    Manchester  8d 430   
BRETT  Elizabeth Ellen     Manchester  8d 430

1891
RG12/3257 f 5 p3
RD Prestwich 
SubRD Newton 
ED 31 


Allmark
Robert 1842 Nk, Cheshire, Head  Iron Turner
Elenor 1846 Manchester, Lancashire, Wife     
Robert Hy 1876 Manchester, Lancashire Son   Land?Dresser
Mary 1879 Manchester, Lancashire, Daughter

Guess Mary Brett had died by then

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 14:12 BST (UK) »
Sorry - I was wrong.  Mary Brett was living with her other daughter Mary, by now married to Henry Atkin


RG12/3243 f 19 p31
RD  Manchester 
Sub RD  St George 
ED 8 

85 Reather? St

Atkin, Henry 1842 Belper, Derbyshire Head Police Constable
Atkin, Mary 1844 Macclesfield, Cheshire Wife
Atkin, Mary 1871 Manchester, Lancashire Daughter Tailoress
Atkin, Eliza 1877 Manchester, Lancashire Daughter Tailoress Apprentice
Atkin, Annie 1888 Manchester, Lancashire Daughter
Brett, Mary 1814 Macclesfield, Cheshire Mother-in-law Living on own means

looks like this is her death

Deaths Dec 1893
Brett  Mary  80  Manchester  8d 220

Here is the Atkin family in 1881

Fire & Police Station,  Goulden St, Manchester, Lancashire
RG11/3998  f 44 p5
RD Manchester 
SubRD St George 
ED 3 
 

Henry Atkin 1842  Belper, Derbyshire Head  Policeman
Mary Atkin 1844  Macclesfield, Cheshire Wife
Charles Brett Atkin 1869  Manchester, Lancashire  Son 
Mary Atkin 1871  Manchester, Lancashire Daughter
Elizabeth Atkin 1873  Manchester, Lancashire, Daughter
Eliza Atkin 1877  Manchester, Lancashire Daughter
 
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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Rose

This has been a great hunt

Blackely Crem have done me proud in the past but today was stunning. Asked for burial location of Charles Brett 1867 blah blah blah ... few minutes later tha lass said is that Sergeant Brett and got out a small file with burial map, photo copy of a page from a book called 150 years of Police in Manchester and it has a photo of him.

Anyway went to Harpurhey Cemetery and found grave (send PM with email address and I will forward the pictures I took)

The headstone is in good order apart from one line and it reads -:

IN AFFECTIONATE REMEMBERANCE OF SERGEANT CHARLES BRETT OF THE MANCHESTER POLICE FORCE WHO DIED IN THE DISCHARGE OF HIS DUTY AT HYDE ROAD SEPT 18TH 1867 IN THE 52 YEAR OF HIS AGE DARE NOT I MUST DO MY DUTY

ALSO MARY RELICT OF THE ABOVE WHO DIED DEC 5TH 1895 AGED 80 YEARS

ALSO WILLIAM BRETT FATHER OF THE ABOVE DIED NOV 11TH 1875 AGED 85 YEARS

ALSO ANNIES ATKIN WHO DIED JULY 1ST 1875 AGED 3 MONTHS FEED MY ? (think it may say babies)

ALSO ELLEN ATKIN BORN JAN 27TH 1880 DIED FEB 1ST 1880.

Why the headstone should say RELICT I have no idea, for your reference the grave number is 2524 c/e
Hope you like the photos

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Harris - Millington - Hilton - Capper - Smith - Jones

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 16:17 BST (UK) »


Ken

That's outstanding!! you're a good man to get all that!!
I'm impressed!!

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 16:28 BST (UK) »
Ken

"Relict" is just an old way of saying "widow"

What an amazing story! 

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Help needed! Manchester 1867 policeman shooting!!!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 July 05 16:28 BST (UK) »
Ken,

Well hunted. They're a good bunch at Blackley aren't they?

I think relict means widow.

Mike
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