Jasper Hawker

[Mansl]

Hi all

This great info for me.He may have remarried if Sarah died in 1819.

Alan

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Looking at George and John on 1851, I can see these interesting baptisms in Staverton

George Stubbs   5 April 1827
John Stubbs 27 Feb 1831

Both have mother Ann

Can't see any of them in 1841 and 1851. There's a possible burial for George in Cheltenham in 1857. On 1861 and 1871, John is in Cheltenham with his aged mother Ann, born Lydney c1786.

"Ann Hawker" on 1851 is born Lydney c1786!

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Aha!  1841, in Upper Gas green, Cheltenham. transcribed by Ancestry as Stubles

Ann Stubbs    60
Ann Stubbs    20
George Stubbs    10
John Stubbs    8
Jasper Stubbs    50 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1851 [transcribed as Hanker by Ancestry]

Jasper Hanker    65 - b Cleeve, married
Ann Hanker    65 - b Lydney, married
George Hanker    24 - b Staverton
John Hanker    20 - b Staverton
Mary Hunt          22 - lodger
Sophia Stubbs    5 - visitor, b Cheltenham [have only just spotted this Stubbs!]


1861

John Stubbs    30 - b Staverton
Mary Ann Stubbs    33
Ellen Stubbs    9
John Stubbs     3
George Stubbs    1
Ann Stubbs    75 - mother, b Lydney. Widow

as noted earlier, Jasper Hawker is lodging elsewhere in Cheltenham, saying he is unmarried (but if his landlady provided the info, she may not know).

Ann lives until 1882! the 1881 census also suggests that John Stubbs marries the lodger from 1851, as his wife Mary's sister Caroline Hunt is also with them

My suspicion, based on baptisms in Staverton, is that Ann was originally married to a John Stubbs (there is a Henry baptised to them in 1813), they parted and Ann had the three further children who are with her in 1841, all baptised with no father. Whether Jasper was their father might be a question that cannot be answered, but presumably he and Ann did not marry, as she could not.

[Mansl]

I do understand all that now and with a name like Jasper it does look like you have it spot on.I am very grateful for you sorting that out.
Alan