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Isaac Needham Ashover
« on: Monday 14 September 15 10:33 BST (UK) »
   The records have an Isaac Needham in Ashover having one child in 1748 with a wife Anne and an Isaac Needham having three children (bap 1757 - 1762)with a wife Ellen. It would appear that this is the same Isaac and that he marries twice. From information from a gravestone in Ashover parish church an Isaac N has a wife Ann  d 1751 age 19   and a second wife Ellen - can't read the detail of Ellen's death. The gravestone reads Isaac dies in May ( remainder is unreadable) and there is only 1 burial in May I can find in Ashover- May 1804.
But when was Isaac born and who were his parents? There are 2 possibilities I can find: Isaac b 1723 f Abraham m Hannah; Isaac b 1726 f William m Elizabeth. Which one marries Ann & Ellen? Can anyone help?

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Re: Isaac Needham Ashover
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 September 15 12:38 BST (UK) »
This might help

Burial
Ashover

7.5.1804 Isaac Needham aged 79 abode Stonedge  (that would out his birth c 1723)

Carol
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Isaac Needham Ashover
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 September 15 13:57 BST (UK) »
Carol
Thanks for the info but I would question your conclusion; apologies.  The eldest Isaac was bap 5 Jun 1723 and the youngest 19 May 1726. The burial record of the 7 May 1804 aged 79 would mean that he was born in either 1725  or 1724. Either way it looks more likely that the burial record  indicates it is the younger Isaac ie bap 1726 that is the person I'm looking for.
Thanks again for your help

Nigel

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Re: Isaac Needham Ashover
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 September 15 14:23 BST (UK) »
No Problem, glad you noticed my deliberate mistake !!!

Not sure if this is the same family.

Marriage Matlock
Isaac Needham & Hellen Wall 18.3. 1753

Baptism Matlock
Elizabeth Needham 20.1. 1754 to Isaac & Hellen

Burial Ashover
Ellen Needham wid Isaac, buried 3.2. 1822 aged 87 abode Spitewinter

Carol
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Isaac Needham Ashover
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 September 15 15:16 BST (UK) »
Carol

I believe Hellen Wall is the second wife of Isaac ie Ellen. Ann, Isaac's first wife dies in 1751  and the marriage to Helen/Ellen is in 1753. The death in 1822 I assume is Ellen/Helen as the calculated  birth year fits. As you know Ashover and Matlock are quite close.

But I'm still unsure if Isaac was bap in 1723 or 1726, although the burial record would indicate the younger Isaac is the man.

Thanks again

Nigel
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