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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:06 BST (UK) »
Did he receive an army pension? He certainly had a long service. Pension papers for the army often include additional and more 'current' info on the soldier and his dependants.

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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:18 BST (UK) »
There is a page on his papers that shows he received £27.5s per quarter which appears to have ceased on his death; it would appear that his wife didn't receive the pension.

The person signing the form , "being a medical Attendant or any householder" is given as Ellen H Galloway of 52 Barnton Street Stirling.  the words "any householder" are underlined so I suspect Ellen fell into that category. The form is dated 5.10.1950
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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:22 BST (UK) »
I don't have experience on this so can't explain what the fine detail may be.

Just questions really...

Wonder why his wife and children didn't benefit from his pension?

Ellen H Galloway of 52 Barnton Street Stirling, is this on his death details? I saw this reference earlier on one of the posts?

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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:37 BST (UK) »
Ellen's name appears on an army form cancelling the pension; I wonder if she was in someway related?
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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:41 BST (UK) »
Ah, OK. Understand better. She may well just be Army Admin. If Army were advised that Charles had died, next step would be to cancel his pension payments. Army have/had offices for their numerous activities and functions all over the UK. Maybe this Ellen worked in a Scottish Office connected to pensions and this type of work? Unconnected in any way to Charles?

Why are you certain that Charles' family were not in receipt of his pension following his admission to the asylum?

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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:59 BST (UK) »
Looking at Google Maps, 52 Barnton Street, Stirling appears to be flats or offices above a Boots shop.
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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 24 September 15 17:47 BST (UK) »
Walked that way too earlier... The properties look original, certainly likely to have been there around 1950s you would think. Thinking this might have been Ellen H Galloway's home address on record?

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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 24 September 15 19:05 BST (UK) »
Ok...so Ellen H(amilton) Galloway does not look to have anything to do with the Army, I think  :-\

Her death reg at the age of 62 from cancer, a couple of years after Charles, confirming previous address, below. Her maiden name Johnston and her mother's Robertson.

Two marriages for Ellen. First to Andrew Mitchell, Minister for the Church of Scotland and then Alexander Galloway, a tailor journeyman.

How does she connect to our Charles  ???

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Re: Charles Brownie - Dunning
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 24 September 15 19:33 BST (UK) »
Can't make out connections so far :-\ Except, John Watts Brownie and George Johnstone were both Draper's Assistants by trade.
 
I think these are the Johnstones in 1901:

George Johnstone 39 draper's assistant b. Duno, Berwickshire (likely this entry https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYB5-L91
Jane Johnstone 35 b. Gorgie (?), Midlothian
Annie B R Johnstone 16
John Johnstone 14
Ellen Johnstone 12  b. Gorgie (?), Midlothian
Wm W R Johnstone 9
George Johnstone 7
James R Johnstone 2

Address: 57 Lower Bridge St. Stirling

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