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The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« on: Thursday 17 September 15 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Could anyone help with any biographical information on the elusive Grant family who were living in South Africa in the late 19th/early 20th century? This family appears to have included the champion tennis players, namely Mabel, Beatrice and Jack Grant. However, they are extremely hard to track down. They might have emigrated to South Africa from England.

I would be grateful for any information anyone could provide on the aforementioned trio and their parents and siblings (there appears to have been more than three children in the family).

Kind regards,

J.

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 September 15 14:05 BST (UK) »

You can try our archives here http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

Select the option for RSA on the page and enter their names in the search box there were a number of returns
You can also then try the option SAB on the page and follow the same process.

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Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 11:44 BST (UK) »
I found this.
DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MSCE                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 595/1967                                                             
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          GRANT, JOHAN. KNOWN AS GRANT, JACK. BORN IN DURBAN, NATAL. S SP       
           GRANT, WINIFRED MAY. BORN SMITH. SINCE DECEASED ESTATE NO.           
           4161/1969. DECEASED ESTATE.                                         
STARTING  19670000                                                             
ENDING    19670000
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 11:45 BST (UK) »
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 12:03 BST (UK) »
On Family Search this marriage fits with the Estate Notice


John Grant
mentioned in the record of John Grant and Winifred May Smith Hall
Name    John Grant
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    02 Jul 1924
Event Place    Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender    Male
Age    27
Birth Year (Estimated)    1897
Spouse's Name    Winifred May Smith Hall
Spouse's Gender    Female
Spouse's Age    31
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)    1893

Image here   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCT-RYP

John would be the anglising of Johan
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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 12:48 BST (UK) »
This forum suggests that Mabel Grant was "probably a native of Natal":

http://www.tennisforum.com/25415290-post772.html

...and the editor of her husband Edmund Neville Nevill's diary about their visit to England in 1895, during which their daughter Maud Sybil Helen Nevill was born, says "...of course, Mabel had never visited Britain before...":


http://old.assa.saao.ac.za/html/history-archive/natal_obs_grey/21-11_1895.pdf
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 13:05 BST (UK) »
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 13:09 BST (UK) »
On Family Search  Marriage for Mabel


Mabel Grant
mentioned in the record of Edmund Nevill and Mabel Grant
Name    Edmund Nevill
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    04 Jun 1894
Event Place    Durban, Natal, South Africa
Gender    Male
Spouse's Name    Mabel Grant
Spouse's Gender    Female

Image here    https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDC2-9XV

There seems to be quite a bit on FamilySearch.org on the Grants, may be worth a look may find the rest of them :)


Quote from: avm228 on Wednesday 23 September 15 13:05 BST (UK)
Background on the Grant family, from the Nevill diaries:

http://old.assa.saao.ac.za/html/history-archive/natal_obs_grey/11-7_marriage_children.pdf

what a wonderful find. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all find such informative snippets on our families  :) :)
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: The English-born (?) Grant family (late 19th/early 20th century)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 September 15 13:23 BST (UK) »
I found this
GRANT, BEATRICE
 South Africa
 Born 18 March ????

 Mabel’s sister. Her future brother-in-law Edmund presented her with a birthday gift or a racquet on 18 March 1885.

http://www.tennisforum.com/25415282-post771.html
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