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Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« on: Friday 18 September 15 18:20 BST (UK) »
Samuel Carson was born in Ireland in 1738 and his wife Mary was born abt. 1740.  In the late 1700s, they belonged to the church of Saint Peter le Bailey in Oxford. Indications are that Mary's maiden name was Butcher.
Can anyone find the marriage of Samuel Carson and Mary Butcher between 1758 (when Mary was 18) and 1782, when we know they were a couple in Oxford. 
thanks for any help.
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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 September 15 19:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Peggy ...

I've had a look at the OFHS's Oxfordshire Marriage Index (1538-1837) and - very surprisingly, I think! - there's only one male CARSON marriage (in 1821) and no female records on the index.

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 September 15 20:03 BST (UK) »

And a bit more ...

Only one CARSON family (mother and two children?) appear on the 1841 census for Oxfordshire (head of household not born in the county).

A surname profile based on the 1881 census shows that the vast majority of CARSONs are located in the north-west of England and south-west of Scotland.

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 September 15 16:33 BST (UK) »
But sadly the marriage is not in the St Peter Le Bailey records.

Pennie

I see ONE Carson male marriage on 10 Dec 1829 I don't see an 1821 in the index - have you anymore detail please, Ive got all the Oxford PR's and it would save time to know which / where you have the marriage. The one I can see was in Wallingford?

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 September 15 12:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Nigel ...

Apologies, my mistake - it was the Wallingford 1829 marriage that I found.  (As I knew that I hadn't found anything relevant for the poster, I just added that marriage on as an afterthought from memory - a memory that was at fault on this occasion!)

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 September 15 17:40 BST (UK) »
Pennie

No need for apologies but as you say - how strange - only ONE marriage for this last name in nearly 300 yrs in Oxon.

Peggy
I think you need to have another look at this and see if there is any more info you have that may help us help you?

T ra

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Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 September 15 16:09 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry but I have so very little info on this couple.  I do have that Samuel died Aug 24, 1810 and that Mary died July 26,1801. Would there be any info on their parents?
I see that Nigel has all the Oxford PRs. Does that include baptisms? My gg grandmother Susannah Boyd, grandneice of Samuel Carson, was born Oct 14, 1808 in Oxford but I don't know which church they belonged to.  Her sister Jane Boyd was born Mar 30, 1815. I have looked for them and their siblings for many a long year. Parents were Samuel Carson Boyd and Mary Lawson. Other siblings between 1800 and 1810 were John and Robert, William Carson Boyd in Dec 1811, Samuel Carson Boyd in 1812, Margaret abt. 1815, and Eliza Russell Boyd in 1823. Opinions offered were that they belonged to a non-conformist religion.  They were a religious family so must have had baptisms.
Thanks for any help.
Peggy
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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 September 15 19:18 BST (UK) »
Peggy
I have just looked at all the transcribed Parish Records for Oxford and there are 42 parish's. Some started way after your search date/s so I eliminated then straight away but even so sadly NO BOYD baptisms anywhere.

I recommend you ask the Oxfordshire Family History Society (OFHS) to run searches of their indexes and archive indexes and see if they can point us in the right direction.

I suppose it is feasible the children were not baptised or at least not as children but as adults, perhaps before marriage or death or may be never.

Sorry I cannot help do try the OFHS - www.ofhs.org.uk they really are very good and so helpful.

Nigel 
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Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Marriage Samuel Carson and Mary, Saint Peter le Bailey
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 September 15 20:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Nigel for all your efforts. Are the Parish Records the same as the Parish Chest, which I was told will have all baptisms, no matter the religion.
Peggy
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