Samuel Wright - Tasmania ( Who Are His Parents)

[Aaron Pitt]

Hi All
Before I start here is the info I have
Samuel Wright B: Sep 22 1827 Hobart, Tasmania
                      M: Mar 1 1854 Launceston Tasmania to  Anne Chilcott (B:Jan 1 1834 D:Jul 1861)
                      M: 1862 Margarete Grieg ( B: 1842 D:Apr 19 1895)
                      D: Dec 5 1894 Longford Tasmania, Longford Methodist Cemetery row 3 lot 9

His relationship to me is GGG Grandfather, Father of Lydia Priscilla Pitt  (Wright) who married Thomas Pitt.

I have Head stone photo's, Baptism records and marriage certificates as well for each of the above.
I am after  Samuel Wrights Parents, I believe they were:

Mother :Sarah Wright (Newton)
Father : James or John Wright

On Samuels Birth record it lists his parents as James and Sarah Wright
On Samuel and Annes Marriage record there is a John Wright as a witness
I have found a marriage licence of a  John Wright and a Sarah Newton for the 10th April 1826.They mention them as convicts but I cant seem to find any record. I have also had a good hunt around a few other web sites and that is confusing me even more, there is a mention of a Samuel Wright and a Anne Tolan being married but this is just making the waters even muddier again. Please am I on the right track or am I barking up the wrong tree.
Please help me!!!!!!

[Dundee]

They mention them as convicts but I cant seem to find any record.

This is Sarah/Sally NEWTON, her record is notated "ux WRIGHT" (ux is Latin for wife). 

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON40-1-7,312,119,F,60

The full details of the offence in 1833 are obscured by a page repair (?). Usually the name of the convict's master is noted for each offence/incident and the wording appears to show that she was assigned to her husband so he would have to be free or have a TOL by then. 

Debra 

[Dundee]

there is a mention of a Samuel Wright and a Anne Tolan being married but this is just making the waters even muddier again.

Here is that marriage, her name is recorded as FOULAN.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-15p370j2k

There are children born to John and Sarah WRIGHT and James and Sarah WRIGHT at the same time in Hobart - John is a Shoemaker, James is a Dealer.

The confusion is in the use of the added name NEWTON for the daughter of James who was born prior to the John WRIGHT/Sarah NEWTON marriage but baptised with Samuel in 1827.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD32-1-1-p129j2k

Do you have any evidence that your Samuel was born in Tasmania?

Debra 

[Dundee]

Usually the name of the convict's master is noted for each offence/incident and the wording appears to show that she was assigned to her husband so he would have to be free or have a TOL by then. 

Debra 

Actually I just noticed that her sentence was 7 years, so the 1833 entries would be after she was free.  There is no notation of her sentence being extended.

Debra 

[Dundee]

The obit for Samuel WRIGHT suggests that he came to Tasmania with his parents "over 50 years ago".  Halfway down fourth column:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15345368

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/153453685

Debra 

[TasTyger]

The children of John and Sarah (Newton) Wright had as stay in the Queens School Orphanage -

Samuel - http://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=5841

James - http://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=5836

Robert - http://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=5840

Sarah - http://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=5842

Samuel and Sarah's entries in SWD28 are online -

Samuel - http://stors.tas.gov.au/SWD28-1-1 Boys Page 6 (bottom of page)

Sarah - http://stors.tas.gov.au/SWD28-1-1 Girls Page 6 ( 2/3rds of the way down the page)

Sarah Newton is said to have arrived on the Mary III ? I think that's got garbled somehow and she is in fact the Sally Newton who arrived on the Mary 1 voyage of 1823.

Not a hundred percent sure but I think this John Wright may be the convict father -

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31450236

Cheers,

Peter

[Aaron Pitt]

Hi Deb and Peter
Thanks for your wonderful work, so let me get this right.
Sarah Newton is actually Sally Newton - is there a reasonable answer to this, there is so many records showing "Sarah".
She was transported in 1823 but was charged again and sentenced in 1833

As for Samuel Wright having been born in Tasmania I cannot say apart from having his daughters birth registration details (Lydia Priscilla Wright) where he is named, your detective work seems to say that John and Sarah Wright are his parents and both were convicts. The news paper article you sent me a link for seems to be for the Sydney Herald rather than a paper from Tassie.
A real turn up about the orphan statis but not overall surprising.

Finally, was there any mention about burial records of John and Sarah

Thank you very much for your help
Aaron

[Dundee]

The news paper article you sent me a link for seems to be for the Sydney Herald rather than a paper from Tassie.
Aaron

Sorry, I missed the last '5' at the end 

Here is the link to the obit:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/153453685

Sally is a pet name for Sarah, like Fanny/Frances, Peggy/Margaret etc.

Many convict records have entries which refer to incidents long after the convict has become free.  Her sentence would have expired in 1829 and I think the missing words may indicate that she was just fined for whatever it was that she did.

I think you need to do some more digging to confirm Samuel's origins.

Debra 

[TasTyger]

If John Wright per Caledonia is the correct father he was convicted in the Hobart Supreme Court in 1834 and got a 7 year sentence. Sarah may not have been able to support the children because of this and they ended up spending time in the orphanage.

Death of Sarah Wright in 1844 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-2p3j2k  Shoemakers wife, Informant was S (Sarah?) Wright, Daughter, Harrington Street.

John Wright per Caledonia was born circa 1797 and there are a number of such individuals dying with the same age so hard to pinpoint a death...

Cheers,

Peter