Margaret Cowan - can't find death

[leasha]

Margaret Cowan (nee Gibson) b abt 1824 Johnstone, Dumfriesshire, spouse Thomas Cowan b abt 1820 Kirkpatrick, Dumfriesshire.  She appears in the 1871 census in Kirkpatrick Juxta with the family but is missing from the 1881 census.  I have searched for her death between 1871 and 1881 on ancestry, scotlands people, and family search and have not been able to find her death registration.
I have not been able to find her parish birth register either, also their marriage details elude me.   The registration of the birth of their daughter Jemima in 1855 mentioned they were married in 1845 in Johnstone.  Thomas died in 1893 (widower of Margaret Gibson)
Can anyone help me locate any of these details or are there gaps in registration details online.
Thanks
Lea-Anne

[ecksdochter]

Hello Lea-Anne,
     There are 2 female deaths for surname Cowan in Kirkpatrick-Juxta, Dumfries-shire between 1871 & 1881.
     Grace Waugh Cowan, 1877 aged 28yrs.
     Margaret Cowan, 1880 aged 51yrs. (ScotlandsPeople)

          1851. Glasgow, Lanarkshire.
     Thomas  Cowan  31  b  Kirkpatrick. (Railway Clerk)
     Margaret     "       27  b  Johnstone.
     Martha        "         4  b  Kirkpatrick.
     Grace          "         2  b  Edinburgh.
     Margaret     "     7mons  b  "

          1861. Lanark, Lanarkshire.
     Thomas Cowan  41  b  Kirkpatrick. (Station Master)
     Margret      "       37  b  Johnstone.
     Martha       "       14  b  Kirkpatrick.
     Grace         "       17  b  Edinburgh. (Age might be a Transcription Error)
     Margret      "       10  b        "
     Jamima      "         6  b  Lanark.
     Jane           "         4  b       "
     Willimina     "     7mons b  "   

          1871. Kirkpatrick-Juxta, Dumfries-shire.
     Thomas Cowan  50  b  Kirkpatrick-Juxta. (Station Master)
     Margaret    "       45  b  Johnstone.
     Martha B    "       22  b  Kirkpatrick-Juxta.
     Jemima       "      16  b  Lanark.
     Jane Gibson  "    14  b       "
     Williamina G  "    10  b       "
     Thomas        "       7  b  Kirkpatrick-Juxta.

          1881. Kirkpatrick-Juxta, Dumfries-shire.
     Thomas Cowan  61  b  Kirkpat-Juxta. (Station Master)
     Jane           "       24  b  Lanark.
     Williamina   "       20  b      "
     Thomas      "       17  b  Kirk-Juxta.
     Grace Cowan      84  b    "       "    (Mother)

          1891. Moffat, Dumfries-shire.
     Thomas Cowan  71  b  Kirkpk-Juxta. (Rtd. Stationmaster)
     Jane           "       32  b  Lanark.
     Wm F Moryson    25  b  Ireland. (Lodger)
   
          This might be Margaret 1841. Johnstone, Dumfries-shire.
     William Gibson  50 (Farmer)
     David        "      15
     Robert      "       15
     Margaret  "       15
     Thomas    "       14
     George     "       13
          All born Dumfries-shire. (A*try)
     Adult ages on 1841 Census are rounded down to nearest 5. David, Robert & Margaret could be any age between 19 & 15.
     Hope there is some new information there.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
   
     
       

[leasha]

Thank you for the information.  I have all the census ones but no matter how I try, I can not find the death registration for Margaret on ScotlandsPeople. I have even narrowed the search down to the year and district.  I will however keep trying and thanks again for at least narrowing it down to a year (1880)
Lea-Anne

[robbiesmum]

Hi
Have you tried downloading the Scotlandspeople death certificate for Margaret Cowan in Kirkpatrick Juxta in 1880? Its in the right place and though the age is slightly out, I've often found the age mistranscribed in Scotlandspeople. If you haven't checked it, you can't be sure it isn't the right one.
best wishes
robbiesmum

[ecksdochter]

Hello Lea-Anne,
     Sorry, I should have said not to type her maiden name in the 'Other Surnames' box. Try searching using just Surname: Cowan & Forename: Margaret. I couldn't find a match when I included her maiden name Gibson. There is no 'other surname' included on the index so probably no maiden name included on her DC.
     Good luck with your search and I hope this is the right Margaret.
               Regards,     Dod.

[isobelw]

The 1880 death is the correct one. There are two different entries on Scotlandspeople for some reason. There is the one listed above and another for Margaret Gibson age 56 both of which link back to the same certificate. Margaret is actually shown as age 56 on the certificate. She died on 19th Jan 1880 at the Station House, Kirkpatrick Juxta. Married to Thomas Cowan, Stationmaster. Parents William Gibson, Farmer dec'd and Martha nee Burgess dec'd. She died of Pleurisy.
Isobel

[ecksdochter]

Hello,
     Well spotted Isobel.
     In Scotland, Death Certificates for married women can be found under married name OR maiden name OR (preferably) using both in the same search. The problem with this DC is the difference in information given (age) between a search using  married name, Cowan (51) or maiden name Gibson (56) and, although you can still find Margaret using either name with an age range 50-60, it comes up with 'no match' if you use both married and maiden name in the same search. (Hope I'm making sense)
     Lea-Anne, if you bring this DC up on ScotlandsPeople, scroll down to the bottom of the page. There's a bit there where you can comment on transcription of images. SP will correct their information if you contact them.
     Glad it's the right Margaret.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
     

[leasha]

Thank you everyone for your help.  I did not realise you could even include the maiden name. Which I didn't in this case but  I have found the DC and now have the information I needed.
However is anyone able to help me find her birth in the parish register and her marriage to Thomas Cowan in 1845 Johstone.  Perhaps once again I am missing something in the search as I can not find anything.
Lea-Anne

[andycand]

Hi

Many christenings and marriages pre Statutory Registration (which commenced in 1855) are not online. The OPRs are the Parish Registers of the Church of Scotland but there are other denominations. Scotlandspeople has the Catholic Parish Registers (CPRs) but they don't have the likes of the United Presbyterian, the Episcopal Church, the Free Church of Scotland etc.

Andy