Where was my g.grandfather born?

[GrannyM]

Ahh, just found it

[keyboard86]

Hi again so that we can gauge if Issac & Rachel could be possible parents of Peter:-

1851 census

Isaac Sutcliffe 52 occ Ag Lab b Whalley
Rachel 51 b Whalley
John 22 b Blackburn
Isabella 22 b Blackburn
Ellen 18 b Bury
Thomas 14 b Bury
Jane 11 b Bury
Residing Tottington Lower End, Ramsbottom
Census ref HO107/2212/71/52
Keyboard86

[GrannyM]

Did Peter and Mary baptise their children at St Pauls Warrington, given as living in Stamford ST?
There is also a George and Elizabeth Sutcliffe baptising their children at the same church at a similar time also of Stamford ST. George and Elizabeth are living on Stamford St in 1871, as are Peter and Mary. Perhaps George is another brother to Peter and Thomas?

[MaureeninNY]

Must stop looking at this one.
 I have become fixated on the family of Isaac and Sarah HARTLEY (1841 Warrington);my mind is like a broken record...same thing over and over and over again.

Maureen

[keyboard86]

  Know how you feel,  George Sutcliffe b c 1846 Warrington, married to Elizabeth in 1871 where 1851/61?
Keyboard86

[MaureeninNY]

 
Thanks,Keyboard.

Maureen

[GrannyM]

Know how you feel,  George Sutcliffe b c 1846 Warrington, married to Elizabeth in 1871 where 1851/61?
Keyboard86

This family just doesn't want to be found pre 1871

Decided to try a different tack.....found a burial for an Isaac Sutcliffe 1878, age 66, registered Culcheth, Leigh. On lancashirebmd

SUTCLIFFE   Isaac   66   Culcheth   Wigan & Leigh   CUL/21/125

Culcheth is near Warrington? But wouldn't you know it...can't find him 1871,or 1861....can anyone else find him?

[heywood]

I too am favouring the Hartley family.

Alice Hartley b abt 1844 is with her father Isaac in 1861 in Warrington.

1871 3911/98/44


Alice Sutcliffe 27 yrs b Warrington is a boarder in Culcheth.

Heywood

[GrannyM]

I too am favouring the Hartley family.

Alice Hartley b abt 1844 is with her father Isaac in 1861 in Warrington.

1871 3911/98/44


Alice Sutcliffe 27 yrs b Warrington is a boarder in Culcheth.

Heywood

I too had found the Hartley family in 1851 with children Joseph, Thomas, Peter, George and Alice.(1841 there is William and James). I was trying to work out why the different surname ...at first thought it was a mistake of the person writing the census returns but then found the family in 1841 AND 1851. They changed their surname for some reason? I was going round in circles so gave up before I went crazy