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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 December 17 13:07 GMT (UK) »
No problem.

I have done a bit of searching and I can confirm that this is likely the correct family. The following records are available on GRONI but:

Agnes Cochran, widower of a labourer dies 12th January 1871 aged 75 (birth at circa 1796) - Jane Connelly present at death, in Templepatrick.

Also marriage of Eliza Cochran to James Hagen on 16th October 1852 at the Antrim Registrars Office. James Hagen is shown as age 30 and a laborer. James' father was Patrick Hagen, profession listed as pensioner. Residence at marriage is Toberagnee, Parish of Ballymartin (https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/belfast-lower/ballymartin/toberagnee/).

Eliza Cochran's age is listed as full age, no profession. Residence at Ballycushan, Parish of Templepatrick (https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/belfast-upper/templepatrick/ballycushan/). Her father is listed as Christopher Cochran, laborer.

Witnesses are William Smyth and Bernard ? - can't read it all.

This should give a bit more of a confirmation as to the information being correct.
Ireland:
Antrim: Chisim (Chism/Chisholm), Ross, Black, Dornan, Bell, Gowdy (Goudy), Clawson (Classon), Lockhart (Locket), Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery, McKinley, Cochran, Armstrong, Stewart, Morris
Down: Blackwood
Derry: Blaney (Blayney), Creamer (Cramer/Creanor)
Fermanagh: Downey, Rice
Tyrone: Hamilton, Irwin

England:
Lindores

Wales:
Johns

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 December 17 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Really useful to have this . Thank You . Shame there dont appear to be any trees for them on line. Good to be able to add them to mine.
Have looked for awhile for other records foe Eliza and her husband James Hagen without success in the area and wonder if they could have gone abroad .

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 December 17 14:38 GMT (UK) »
No problem.

The church records have a family directory as well for some time in the mid 1850s so I will check that.

I will probably be back sooner than i thought. Likely some time during Christmas week so I will have a look through the records in detail then.
Ireland:
Antrim: Chisim (Chism/Chisholm), Ross, Black, Dornan, Bell, Gowdy (Goudy), Clawson (Classon), Lockhart (Locket), Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery, McKinley, Cochran, Armstrong, Stewart, Morris
Down: Blackwood
Derry: Blaney (Blayney), Creamer (Cramer/Creanor)
Fermanagh: Downey, Rice
Tyrone: Hamilton, Irwin

England:
Lindores

Wales:
Johns

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 December 17 14:42 GMT (UK) »
It's great you are close enough to visit. Thanks again.

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #22 on: Monday 11 December 17 16:53 GMT (UK) »
I spotted a gravestone to Margaret Lockhart (died 16th November 1928 aged 78) in Templepatrick Parish Churchyard. The grave is also used by Andrew Logan (d 1972) and his wife Anna (d 1986) who are probably relatives.

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Many Thanks for that. Not sure were they fit in at present --but they will in time.

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 30 December 17 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,

I have been back to the PRONI and have went through all of the reel for Templepatrick Presbyterian Church. I don't think I have missed anything, but it is possible but unfortunately it hasn't really shed much light onto the Cochran family going back. On the first search I didn't go through the whole record as I didn't know if the Cochran's were going to be there, I have found the following information:

To clarify last time: There is a list of families in the congregation dated 1831.

I found a family consisting of:
Christopher Cochrine/Cochine/Cochrane (it's hard to read)
Agnes Bartly (is the maiden name) widower of a labourer dies 12th January 1871 aged 75 (birth at circa 1796) - Jane Connelly present at death, in Templepatrick.
Mary Cochrane
Eliza Cochrane marries James Hagen on 16th October 1852 at the Antrim Registrars Office. James Hagen is shown as age 30 and a laborer. James' father was Patrick Hagen, profession listed as pensioner. Residence at marriage is Toberagnee, Parish of Ballymartin (https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/belfast-lower/ballymartin/toberagnee/).
Charles Cochrane
Margaret Cochrane marries James Lockhart at the Antrim Registrar Office on 14th November 1853.

The townland which they are stated to be in is Templepatrick (so the town).

I found the marriage of Mary Cochrane who married Thomas Granger on 31st March 1843, residence is Clachanduff. Christopher and Agnes were the parents.

Their children:
William Granger was born to Thomas and Mary in May/1843, baptised 7/6/1843 at Clachanduff
Christopher Granger was born 22/11/1844, baptised 12/1/1845 at Craigarogan.
David was born 7/6/1849, baptised 9/9/1849 at Craigarogan.

The reel then has a list of communicants:
married person Christian Cochran 1834 (i have no idea who this is.)
Young person Mary Cochran 1840
Thomas Granger 1843
Margaret Cochran 1848

There is then a list of the congregation in 1857:
None of the Cochran family is present except Mary with Thomas who are resident in Cotton Mount.

My assumption would be that they changed church. Given the fact that Eliza and Margaret didn't even marry at the church it would be assumed that they had left it. What is interesting is Agnes who wouldn't die until 1871, she no longer attends (unless she was listed in with another family). No mention of Christopher either. Perhaps he was dead by then?

I can't remember the context for this but a Mary Cochran appears again, I don't believe there was a year but she is listed in Toberagnew with Thomas Price then a list of names, assumed children of Thomas, Elizabeth, Margaret, Janet, Mary. Mary Cochran is then named as such at the end and is referred to as a niece.

The only other thing about this is that the Presbyterian Church in Templepatrick split at some point into Non-subscribing Presbyterians and some other form of Presbyterian. So maybe they are in there. I don't know and I can't remember the year of the split. It may be worth checking out when I next go there.

Ireland:
Antrim: Chisim (Chism/Chisholm), Ross, Black, Dornan, Bell, Gowdy (Goudy), Clawson (Classon), Lockhart (Locket), Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery, McKinley, Cochran, Armstrong, Stewart, Morris
Down: Blackwood
Derry: Blaney (Blayney), Creamer (Cramer/Creanor)
Fermanagh: Downey, Rice
Tyrone: Hamilton, Irwin

England:
Lindores

Wales:
Johns

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Re: Cochran Family from Templepatrick
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 30 December 17 14:24 GMT (UK) »
You have been busy. Many thanks for this and on the back of it, I  have just discovered
 a tree on Ancestry for Christopher Granger b 22/11/1844 that you mention . He marries Eliza Stewart and they have 2 sons. Christopher b 1876 and a brother Thomas b1879.

 Perhaps of more interest is that Mary and Thomas Granger (according to the tree on line) had another son--James b 1847 who married Margaret J Gormal 1849-1907. They go on to have 5 Children.
But as the owner of the tree starts with Mary Cochrane and Thomas Granger it suggests they dont alas have any information going further back.
All the best.