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Surname Patrick death 1st qtr 1951 Missing from GRO index
« on: Saturday 03 October 15 10:48 BST (UK) »
I have searched and searched, but maybe not looking properly  :-X

for the death of :  George Alfred Patrick -- born 1872 Huntingdonshire.

he marries in 1898 a Mary Jane Blanchard Chester, they have one daughter Gladys Lizzie.

So I know I have the correct 'probate snip' as per attchd   but just cannot find a death.

His wife I have found, she died in 1955 with a registration district of Huntingdonshire.

Her probate snip shows her as living at 8 Church Green Ramsey, Huntingdonshire.   A beautiful place by the looks of a 'google' search, just not sure which one is actually Number 8.  :)  but lovely.. whoops  - wandering off..

So really just need to know where he died and possibly buried.. for future grave hunting days :)

Thanks

Xin




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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 October 15 11:00 BST (UK) »
Where are you looking?  On Freebmd, every single Patrick death for Mar Q 1951 is missing - there should be about 20, judging by the previous and following quarters.  I haven't tried on any pay sites.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 October 15 11:11 BST (UK) »
On Freebmd, every single Patrick death for Mar Q 1951 is missing -

You can look at the GRO index for where Patrick names should be in this quarter on freebmd by searching the surname Paton which brings up the right sheet. However there are no Patrick deaths listed in March qtr 1951 it goes Paton - Patrickson - Partridge
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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 October 15 11:15 BST (UK) »
That is strange I wonder if it has been indexed as Paton  ::)  I just searched for a George A in March qtr 1951 in Huntingdonshire and there were only two results

Death Mar qtr 1951   
George A Paton
age    78   
Huntingdon reg district    4b   451
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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 October 15 11:29 BST (UK) »
What about contacting the local Municipal Cemetery to ask them to check their burial/cremation records - they may charge a small fee though - but you would know if he was buried or cremated there.
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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 October 15 11:33 BST (UK) »
There are about 7 public trees on Ancestry, none of which has a death recorded for him, so looks as if you are not the only one having a problem with his date of death.  However a 1911 census shows him still alive at that time, in West Bridgford, Nottingham!

Hope this might help.

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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 October 15 12:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Xin
Mary Janes probate shows her usual address and where she died (hospital). George Alfreds only gives usual address and date of death. I would think that he died at home.  :-\


There are about 7 public trees on Ancestry, none of which has a death recorded for him, so looks as if you are not the only one having a problem with his date of death. 

The date of death is known as it shows on the probate index, we just can't find the death registration on the GRO index  ;D

Rosie
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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 October 15 12:30 BST (UK) »
That is strange I wonder if it has been indexed as Paton  ::)  I just searched for a George A in March qtr 1951 in Huntingdonshire and there were only two results

Death Mar qtr 1951   
George A Paton
age    78   
Huntingdon reg district    4b   451

I think that's the answer. If you cross-check the probate index with the death index, there are other PATRICKs with probate in that year whose deaths appear to be indexed as PATON in Mar Qtr 1951 (e.g. Dorothea Anna PATRICK, and Charles Thomas PATRICK).

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Re: Have probate, but cant find actual death
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 October 15 13:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Bookbox  ;D

Xin,

I think I know what has happened.  If you look at the surname Paton on the GRO index for March qtr 1951 that is available to view on freebmd it starts with Alexander and goes alphabetically to Susanna, then it starts again with Alice G and goes to the end of the alphabet.  It would appear that they have left the surname off the index when it restarted as Alice G - I have checked most of the first qtr 1951 Patrick probates and they all match with Paton names and areas in the Paton list after Alice G. Hope that makes sense

Rosie
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