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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #18 on: Monday 05 October 15 23:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for your help Tara, you appear to love solving mysteries just like me lol.  I have discussed that Kehoe wedding with my brother but as Broe is a common name in west Wicklow particularly around Blessington we feel it is unlikely a spelling error but you never know in this genealogy game.  Again a theory is that if our Patrick was from Enfield he may have met Ellen on his way south to find work, and got married along the way.  If we could just find the parents of Patrick and James all would be revealed of course but the further we go back the less details are given on marriage registers as you know.    My brother and I decided to post this in the hope maybe another branch of the family has put a family tree together.  Like fishing we shall await to see what if anything bites.
Murphy, Broe, Canavan, Acton, Byrne - Wicklow.
Murray - Castlepollard
Murphy - Enfield
Redmond - Ballygarret

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 05 October 15 23:57 BST (UK) »
Just one last idea ~

Do you have a list of Patrick's children in chronological order ?

Tara

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 00:03 BST (UK) »
James Murphy of Clonguiffin named his first son James which indicates that his father was called James too.

This ties in nicely was a James Murphy of Clonguiffin on GV.

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/meath/rathcore.htm

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 00:05 BST (UK) »
Try contacting the GAA Club to see can they put you in touch with the Clonguiffin Murphy's.

They are great for knowing the locals.

I had a great success story doing this for a family member.

http://meath.gaa.ie/club-details/longwood/

Tara


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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 00:11 BST (UK) »
Rathcore doesn't appear to be well covered.

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0965

Could explain the Murphy / Keefe marriage showing up just over the border !

Enfield is one of those confusing areas near too many borders  :)

Tara

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 00:13 BST (UK) »
Having problems attaching a screen shot of Patrick's family to here so will do tomorrow when on laptop.  Here is a link to it on ancestry if that's allowed.  No James as sons from what we have found so far mind.
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/79857350/person/30407783881
Murphy, Broe, Canavan, Acton, Byrne - Wicklow.
Murray - Castlepollard
Murphy - Enfield
Redmond - Ballygarret

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 00:18 BST (UK) »
I don't have a sub to there so can't see it but sure don't worry.

Look, naming patterns are a great starting point but aren't a hard and fast rule, especially if families fell out.

Anyway, I'm off to my leaba.

I shall have another poke about tomorrow.

Oh, and let me know if you need any help on your other thread.

I'm a glutton for punishment  ;D

Tara

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 08:31 BST (UK) »
Just posting this Tara before I head out to work, cheers.
Murphy, Broe, Canavan, Acton, Byrne - Wicklow.
Murray - Castlepollard
Murphy - Enfield
Redmond - Ballygarret

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Re: Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 06 October 15 14:45 BST (UK) »
Have you Patrick Murphy's marriage cert as it should give his father's name. I looked for a marriage of
James and Kate (Catherine) around 1872 but only found a church marriage that might be a possibility but its in Killucan Westmeath not Meath. Posting here as it may be relevant eventually.
Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:   10-Feb-1873
Parish / District:   KILLUCAN      County:   Co. Westmeath
Husband      Wife
Name:   James   Murphy      Kathleen   Kieffe
Address:   Not Recorded      Not Recorded
Denomination:   Roman Catholic      Roman Catholic
Occupation:   Not Recorded      Not Recorded
Age:   Not Recorded      Not Recorded
Status:   Bachelor (Previously unmarried)      Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Not Recorded   Murphy      Not Recorded   Kieffe
      
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:   Not Recorded   Not Recorded
annclare   
Added found a civil marriage in the index  for Catherine Keeffe Year 1873 Registration district Mullingar Quarter 1 volume 3 Page 330 and  a James Murphy has the same registration details so it is possibly the correct marriage. Getting a copy will confirm James' father's name and may match info from Patrick's marriage cert.
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That is quite likely the marriage we are looking for Ann, thanks.  Will get the cert next time I am in Dublin and see if James's father's name is the same as the birth entry we found for who we think is him in Summerhill.
Murphy, Broe, Canavan, Acton, Byrne - Wicklow.
Murray - Castlepollard
Murphy - Enfield
Redmond - Ballygarret