Murphy family, Clongiffin, Enfield.

[sparksss67]

Here is the mass card mentioned in the opening post.  Also attached are the baptisms for James in Summerhill on 17 February 1832 (hopefully the same one who married Kate Keeffe)  and Patrick in Summerhill on 16 October 1834.  It gives their home as Ballinjohn, which we can't seem to find, could this be present day Johnstown? 

Hopefully when we get the marriage cert for James and Kate Keeffe we can establish if the James Murphy senior in the baptism entry is the same man as the father on the cert.  This would give us a direct link from the mass card of Kate Murphy nee Keeffe back to a James Murphy who had two sons, James and Patrick (maybe the one we are looking for)....or maybe not.

[taramcdsmall]

Such a shame that there's no way to know what Patrick's parent's names were 

Tara

[sparksss67]

Such a shame that there's no way to know what Patrick's parent's names were 

Tara

Yea the only hope at the moment is if we can find his marriage to Ellen Broe but even then there is no guarantee the parents names will be given.

[taramcdsmall]

Have you gone through all the churches on nli.ie ?

Tara

[sparksss67]

Have you gone through all the churches on nli.ie ?

Tara

I have covered the dates we feel they got married in most of the registers in Wicklow and also recently the ones around Enfield.  As I said before Broe is a common name in west Wicklow and so we felt the marriage may have been there initially.  But we will spread our search and who knows...  For example on another branch of our family there is a marriage in St Andrews, Dublin back in the 1860s even though both participants were from the Kilcoole area of Wicklow and we can't figure out why they did it in Dublin yet.

[taramcdsmall]

. . . and if the theory of Patrick originally being from Meath pans out sure the marriage could be anywhere from the Midlands technically.

Our ancestors sure like keeping us on our toes 

Tara

[sparksss67]

. . . and if the theory of Patrick originally being from Meath pans out sure the marriage could be anywhere from the Midlands technically.

Our ancestors sure like keeping us on our toes 

Tara

They sure do, think I need to take a week off work lol.

[sparksss67]

There is a Patrick Murphy and Ellen Kehoe (kinda sounds like Broe) writing isn't great so it's possibly them.

It's 1861 and it says they were living in Talbotstown, which you mentioned.

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634564#page/111/mode/1up

Tara

Have left this search for a while and came back to it with a fresh mind in the last few days.  While no parents names are given for this marriage, we have found a Patrick Murphy born in Talbotstown in 1831, which would make him the same age as our Patrick on his mass card, which is 64 in 1896.  Also this Patrick's parents are given as Michael and Rose, and his brother is a Daniel.

 Patrick Murphy and Ellen Broe named their first son Michael, address Talbotstown, born 1862, and their first daughter Rosanna.  Their third son was named Daniel.  All would appear to tie in nicely if we substitute Kehoe for Broe in the marriage record and presume that this Patrick Murphy, Talbotstown born in 1831 is the same person whose address is Talbotstown in the marriage record to Ellen Kehoe.

Perhaps whoever filled in the entry misheard Broe and inserted Kehoe?