Cornelius and Alexander BLACHFORD lost in censuses

[LizzieL]

HO107 , Piece 393, Book 11, Folio 25 page 12

has Robert a publican b abt 1796, with Caroline 20, Harriet 20 and Martha 9.

had the family split up and living at different addresses?

[LizzieL]

Together in 1851

Piece 1666, Folio 422, page 2

Harriet born Ibsley, Robert born Fordingbridge, living Milton. Hiss occupation farmer of 60 Acres

There is a burial at Brockenhurst in jan 1865 for a Robert Turner Blachford from near farnborough, nearest on FreeBMD Q1 1865 Farnborough is a Robert james Blackford no age given.

[LizzieL]

Familysearch has baptism of a Robert Toomer Blatchford in Fordingbridge on 28 May 1792 s/ o Robert Richard and Mary.

Also at Fordingbridge
Robert s/o Robert and Mary bapt 21 Dec 1783 (probably too early)

Robert s/o Robert and Dorothy bapt 20 Jun 1795

[Connie Sparrow]

Wow!!

A huge round of thanks to Rosie 99, SmallTownGirl, Ladyhawk and LizzieL for coming up trumps - and so fast!

I'm not sure if Robert and Harriet did separate or not, LizzieL.  I've an instance later where a couple were together in one census, at different places in the next, then together again.  In both cases, they may have been visiting friends or relatives on census night, having a change of air for health reasons, or having a trial separation.

I had found a great many events in Fordingbridge but hadn't realised there was a connection until now

TOOMER is a name that appears again later but in the BRANs which is connected with the BLACHFORDs.  This tree looks as though it'll resemble a spider's web before long

Many thanks to all of you for your help with finding these gentlemen and all the additional information.  It is very much appreciated

[LizzieL]

As Robert and Harriet were together in 1851, maybe living apart was for economic reasons. Harriet was with the two sons in 1841 and they were Ag labs, so maybe running the farm and she was keeping house for them.
Robert was an innkeeper and had the three daughters with him.
Possibly farm income wasn't enough to keep the whole family, so Robert managed to get the tenancy of an inn and the daughters (or at least the older two) were helping him run it.

[Connie Sparrow]

As Robert and Harriet were together in 1851, maybe living apart was for economic reasons. Harriet was with the two sons in 1841 and they were Ag labs, so maybe running the farm and she was keeping house for them.
Robert was an innkeeper and had the three daughters with him.
Possibly farm income wasn't enough to keep the whole family, so Robert managed to get the tenancy of an inn and the daughters (or at least the older two) were helping him run it.

That's certainly feasible. It only takes a crop failure, disease of crops and/or herd/flock, excessive or nowhere near enough rain, poor prices, and so on, for the family to struggle.

Somewhere, I have a link to a weather site which gives the general weather conditions for quite a long way back.  I'll see if I can find it.  If I can and it covers that period, it might give an indication.

[Connie Sparrow]

Ancestry has an Alexander BLASHFORD, b. 1857, Brockenhurst, living in Brockenhurst as a servant in the household of a J L Popham .  Also there is a female 20yo "A Blashford, cook" in the same household.

I think the cook is Amelia Rose, but could be a lass from another branch of the family.

Cornelius and Mary had a "thing" about names beginning with A

1-Cornelius BLACHFORD b. c 1823, Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1884, (Lymington,
  Hants)
 +Mary SHEPHARD b. c 1823, Brockenhurst, Hants, m. Q3 1846, Brockenhurst,
  Hants, d. Q3 1901, (Lymington, Hants)
|--2-Albert William BLACHFORD b. Dec 1847, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 2 Jan
|    1848, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alice Jane BLACHFORD b. May 1849, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 27 May 1849,
|    Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Agnes Belinda BLACHFORD b. Jan 1851, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 12 Jan
|    1851, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alfred BLACHFORD b. c 1853, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Augustus Arthur BLACHFORD b. c 1855, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Alexander BLACHFORD b. Sep 1856, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 28 Sep 1856,
|    Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1930, Lymington, Hants
|--2-Alvina BLACHFORD b. c 1859, Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Amelia Rose BLACHFORD b. May 1861, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 21 May 1861,
|    Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Adeline Matilda BLACHFORD b. Jun 1862, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 15 Jun
|    1862, Brockenhurst, Hants, d. Q3 1916, (Lymington, Hants)
|--2-Abner Edwin BLACHFORD b. Dec 1863, Brockenhurst, Hants, bap. 27 Dec 1863,
|    Brockenhurst, Hants
|--2-Angelina BLACHFORD b. c 1863, Brockenhurst, Hants

None of the children appear to have been registered and I've only found some of the baptisms online so far.

Angelina only appears in one census and I think she's probably Adeline who's been mistranscribed by the enumerator.

[Connie Sparrow]

There is a burial at Brockenhurst in jan 1865 for a Robert Turner Blachford from near farnborough, nearest on FreeBMD Q1 1865 Farnborough is a Robert james Blackford no age given.

Robert's middle name is given as TUMER. I only found that when I did a C+P.  Probably a misspelling of TOOMER.

I had a look at the image for Robert James and the transcriber understandably misread the scrunched up Toomer for James.  There's a James on the next line and the initial letter is formed very differently in the two names. I've submitted a correction, now to see if it'll be accepted. I've added a Postem as well.

[ojs_uk]

Hi Connie,
I think I've already sent you the link to the online Blachford tree, right?
http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/groups/grpname6.shtml#Blachford
I haven't checked all the info on there, but what I've looked at so far seems pretty good. It also includes some transcriptions of wills and things.
Good luck, cheers,
Owen