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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 14:05 BST (UK) »
1901 census :

John Alves Civil Engineer 65 b " Atlantic Ocean " ( ! )
Sarah Alves  60 b Dumfries , Scotland
guests at The Hotel Great Central , St Marylebone
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 14:11 BST (UK) »
1901 census :

John Alves Civil Engineer 65 b " Atlantic Ocean " ( ! )
Sarah Alves  60 b Dumfries , Scotland
guests at The Hotel Great Central , St Marylebone

...and, with them, Duncan Alves (single, 31, financier) and Mabel Amanda Alves (single, 24), both born Dunedin, N.Z.

Mabel married Harry Pollitt on 6 Nov 1901 - her stated abode was the same hotel (as it was for Harry also).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 14:12 BST (UK) »
Sister of Duncan Elliott Alves :


Mabel Manda Alves 1872/35686 parents John and Sarah Alves

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dbirths#SearchResults
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 14:30 BST (UK) »
1901 Canada census :

James Wilson merchant 52 b Ireland
Margaret Wilson wife 47 b Quebec
Hazel Wilson daughter 15 b Quebec
Ethel Wilson 16
Mary Wilson 18

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH5F-KD4
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:04 BST (UK) »
Ethel Wilson married Captain Herbert  D'Olier Kingstone 24 Jun 1916 , Montreal

brides' parents James Wilson and Margaret Orr

James Wilson , merchant , married Margaret Orr 20 May 1880 Montreal

http://applications.banq.qc.ca/apex/f?p=113:11:0::NO::P11_CLE:31303

Note - his occupation is not given on this record but is available from another source .
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 15:33 BST (UK) »
A bit more here about the Wilson sisters and their mother's estate :

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22duncan+elliott+alves%22+AND+%22hazel+olive+wilson%22


The second result , Chapitre 74 , is a pdf - there is an English version beside the French.
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 16:09 BST (UK) »
It seems from the various newspaper articles that John and Sarah Alves were in Australia before they were in New Zealand. There is a marriage worth considering :

John Alves and Sarah Elliott 1858 Victoria ref. 3486

There were two children born in Victoria :

William Davidson Alves  1860 Victoria 4363
Caroline Alves 1861 Pleasant Creek Victoria 16013

Edit : It would be worth posting on the Australia board for possible further info , adding a link to this thread so no one goes over the same ground.
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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 16:31 BST (UK) »
That's interesting, as there are various records around (Will, and electoral rolls if I remember rightly) for a Duncan Davidson Alves. I wondered if he was related. I'm sure there must a link somewhere
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Duncan Elliott Alves and wife Tunbridge Wells
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 October 15 16:48 BST (UK) »
That's interesting, as there are various records around (Will, and electoral rolls if I remember rightly) for a Duncan Davidson Alves. I wondered if he was related. I'm sure there must a link somewhere

Baptised 15 Jan 1805 at Sunninghill, Berks to parents William ALVES and Sarah Chandler.

Perhaps he was grandfather of Duncan Elliott Alves?

ADDED: or maybe not! He died a bachelor in west London in 1870, probate to his sister Magdalen Alves, spinster, of Putney.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)