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Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« on: Thursday 15 October 15 00:50 BST (UK) »
My 3 x g g/father is listed in the Newcastle Directory (1846) & I would like to know if anyone has any old pics & info. please?

This is how it's written......

Jude Martin, vict. Sun Inn, 80, Side .........
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gat/

I'm confused simply because there are others listed with the street name of "Quay Side" not just "Side"

There's a "New Sun Inn" with address as Quayside which I think is probably the correct one....
https://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/4079315309

A search for "Sun Inn" gives address as Front Street.....
http://www.viewnewcastle.co.uk/pubsandbars/sun-inn-info-47035.html

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 October 15 00:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

That second link is to a pub in Burnopfield.  Burnopfield is in County Durham - not in Newcastle city centre

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 15 01:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Christine...............my geography isn't great over the border  ::)

So, is it the 1st or not is the  ???

The address has thrown me as I can't find it?

I need a PUB MAP as the family were in different pubs at different times & I intend to do a "Pub Crawl" when I find them all (a lot of them have changed name), while I am still able to walk  ;D

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 October 15 01:14 BST (UK) »
This appears to be it...............mentioned here described as Newcastle Quayside;
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/lifestyle/recalling-great-fire-newcastle-1854-6161411

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 October 15 01:37 BST (UK) »
Side is a separate street - not the Quayside.  It runs from St. Nicholas Street diagonally down towards the Tyne Bridge.  You should be able to see it on a modern map.


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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 October 15 01:41 BST (UK) »
I have yet to find Martin Jude in 1851 on a census although he was married in N/castle in 1851 but he was not the Inn Keeper in 1854 at the time of the Great Fire from list of names......

http://www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk/great_fire/

“In Newcastle, commencing at the east end of the property destroyed upon the Quayside, the following is a list of the principal sufferers” “Mr. T. F. Davidson, Sun Inn”

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 October 15 01:51 BST (UK) »
Side is a separate street - not the Quayside.  It runs from St. Nicholas Street diagonally down towards the Tyne Bridge.  You should be able to see it on a modern map.

Thanks Christine,

I have finally found a bit with the address.......no more confusion, just need some pics  ;D

http://www.connectedhistories.org/Search_results.aspx?pc=%22Sun+Inn%22&sr=pp&st=200

"Martin Jude, innkeeper, Sun Inn, Side, Newcastle- upon-Tyne ; his residence is the same"

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 October 15 09:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,
 A postcard of Side in later times

http://www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk/postcards_newcastle1/opcn52w.jpg

In Pigot's 1834 Directory a Nathan Jude was landlord of the Wheatsheaf at 6 Bigg Market, Newcastle.
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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 October 15 11:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks fiddlerslass.

I think Nathan was his brother.
Got to go out but will check back.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"