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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 October 15 02:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

In May 1851 a newspaper gave his address as Ship Inn, Drury-lane, Cloth-market, St Nicholas Square, Newcastle upon Tyne.  With his work he could have been away from home at census time - have you looked in Scotland?  It was a difficult time for trade unionists so another possibility is that he deliberately avoided being included in the census.

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Thanks Drosybont,

Another to add to the Pub Crawl which I didn't have ;D

1 I missed was Meters Arms Inn (son Anthony) was listed there 1863/4 in the Trade Directories although I haven't been able to find that one either although I believe it changed name to The Empress in more recent times as the Meters was demolished.
Would have loved a pic of that too along with The Ship Inn.

I have tried everywhere 1851 & none of the family are to be found  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 October 15 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,
 1841 Robson's Directory of Durham (Includes Newcastle!)

Martin Jude "Half Moon" Byker Bar
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 19 October 15 23:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks fiddlerslass,

Another gap filled.

I have been reading through all my info. & adding what info. I already have & the info. other's have given me.

I have spent a few hrs on google & come up with a very interesting story.

I knew from reading articles that Martin was big in the Miner's fight for better working conditions etc. but I also found this........

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gbm/  (Page 29)

Have been trying to find out more about his Chartist work for Fergus O'Conner School but no dates as such.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 October 15 00:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

That article in the link is interesting.  I've got a biography of the lawyer which it mentions, William Prowting Roberts, that's where I came across Martin Jude's name.  It's on loan at the moment, due back in a couple of weeks' time, so I will see then if it has any more details for you.

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 20 October 15 00:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks D,

I didn't realise the extent of Martin's interest although I knew he was highly thought of as a campaigner.
I certainly didn't find that on FindMyPast.

I will also post a list of all the pubs, addresses & dates when I've finished.

Interesting life he lead.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 October 15 12:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Yes, his work was important and remembered after his death.  I've been wondering how he had time to be a publican too!

Apparently in 1877 memorial stones were put on the graves of him and Thomas Hepburn, the other north east trade union pioneer, and some money was left over, so marble busts of them were put in the old miners hall in Durham.  Presumably these are now in Redhills, the current miners hall which is celebrating its centenary this coming weekend.

And in 1991 both men were shown on a banner which was made following the amalgamation of various unions into the North East Area of the NUM - that's apparently in Redhills too.

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Hotham, Guilliatt, Brown, Winter, Buck, Webster, Mortimore
Richards, Meredith, Gower, Davies, Todd, Westmacott, Hill
Mid C19 Cardiff and Haverfordwest, the Marychurch family.

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 23 October 15 18:38 BST (UK) »
In Pigot's 1834 Directory a Nathan Jude was landlord of the Wheatsheaf at 6 Bigg Market, Newcastle.

Thanks fiddlerslass,

That Nathan may have been Martin's uncle born c1769.

I knew there was Nathan's in the family but Martin didn't have a brother Nathan.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 23 October 15 18:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

Yes, his work was important and remembered after his death.  I've been wondering how he had time to be a publican too!

Apparently in 1877 memorial stones were put on the graves of him and Thomas Hepburn, the other north east trade union pioneer, and some money was left over, so marble busts of them were put in the old miners hall in Durham.  Presumably these are now in Redhills, the current miners hall which is celebrating its centenary this coming weekend.

And in 1991 both men were shown on a banner which was made following the amalgamation of various unions into the North East Area of the NUM - that's apparently in Redhills too.

Drosybont

Thanks Drosybont,

His life makes interesting reading & I wonder where he found time to have at least 8 kids with 2 wives.

The info I found when reading about him, I was unable to save on my comp big enough to be able to read it & enlarging it just made it fuzzy.

I posted a note on here in Aug.....

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gcf/

A family member sent me the attachments.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Martin Jude (which pub was he the Innkeeper of) & looking for pics & info.?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 23 October 15 19:01 BST (UK) »
Sorry about the size..............they were a lot smaller on my comp  :-\

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"