This picture is a puzzle- is it real?

[youngtug]

. Although not wounded in battle he was injured, lost a boot in trenches and stepped on some barbed wire-ouch!  Was in hospital in France. He came home and  in 1917 was at Craigleith Edinburgh convalescing.
Jane

Just may be of interest; https://youtu.be/x8OazQml0gw

[jess5athome]

I think they are also bandsmen who would be the stretcher bearers during any battle that would explain the "injured" man in the bottom of the photo and almost certainly a training exercise

That'a a point, they are mostly wearing bandsman badges.

Frank.

[jettejjane]

I think they are also bandsmen who would be the stretcher bearers during any battle that would explain the "injured" man in the bottom of the photo and almost certainly a training exercise

So bandsmen were so named because of the bands that carried the stretcher?
Not because they played in the band. Coincidentally Grandad did play in the band!  Have learnt something else, thank you.

It is great how a simple question can lead to so much more, brilliant.

Regarding the "injured " man you could cut yourself on the creases on his trousers   I didn't honestly think the pic was for real but had to ask.

So I will date that picture between 1908 -1913. Fantastic.

Jane

[jettejjane]

. Although not wounded in battle he was injured, lost a boot in trenches and stepped on some barbed wire-ouch!  Was in hospital in France. He came home and  in 1917 was at Craigleith Edinburgh convalescing.
Jane

Just may be of interest; https://youtu.be/x8OazQml0gw

Thank you so much yes it was most interesting. Wow am learning so much today.

[millymcb]

Hi Jane.

I think you have misinterpreted what BW252 said about the bandsmen and what Frank said about the badges.

The men who were used as streatcher bearers, particularly in the early years of the war were very often the bandsmen - as in musicians.  Frank is saying the badges some are wearing on their sleaves are their bandsmen badges (you can see they have a harp on them)

You can read up about it..a quick search brings up this for a start..
http://guysboroughgreatwarveterans.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/stretcher-bearers.html
and
http://www.mhhv.org.au/?p=811

Not sure what cap badges they are wearing. The fact they are wearing so many identifying badges does support the theory this was not taken at the front.

Milly

[jettejjane]

Hi Jane.

I think you have misinterpreted what BW252 said about the bandsmen and what Frank said about the badges.

The men who were used as streatcher bearers, particularly in the early years of the war were very often the bandsmen - as in musicians.  Frank is saying the badges some are wearing on their sleaves are their bandsmen badges (you can see they have a harp on them)

You can read up about it..a quick search brings up this for a start..
http://guysboroughgreatwarveterans.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/stretcher-bearers.html
and
http://www.mhhv.org.au/?p=811

Not sure what cap badges they are wearing. The fact they are wearing so many identifying badges does support the theory this was not taken at the front.

Milly

Thanks Milly. Yes I have a lot to learn, the links were helpful. I have 2 pics of Grandad in band one on Photographic Board - Archibald Redman in Band 1910

I know very little about Army facts and am learning slowly, there is a lot I don't understand in some of my posts, I read and 're read replies  but do get confused. Then I don't like to bother people by asking too many questions. I also can't always find the sites that may help.

I think some replies I get are assuming I know the subject afraid am complete novice in matters military.

Jane

[km1971]

Hi Jane

You can date it before 1912 as that was when Territorials who had signed the Imperial Obligation were issued with 'Imperial Service' badges.

Also, ask on the Photography section when men started to havecreases in their troiusers. I think it was late Edwardian. So 1909 to 1911?

Ken

[jess5athome]

Hi, they all look to be wearing Royal Sussex cap badges but when enlarged it pixelates and becomes unclear, just one point, I just wonder if the stretcher bearer on the left as you look at the photograph is wearing a royal Sussex 4Th territorial shoulder title  or am I clutching at straws.


http://www.britishmilitarybadges.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/E2A1a5851_4.jpg


Regards
Frank.

[km1971]

The shoulder title looks to be T over 4 over Royal Sussex.

The one next to Jane's man is wearing three stars for five years service each as a parttimer.

Ken